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Forum: Military Aviation
9th Nov 2019, 12:35
Replies: 142
Views: 74,995
Posted By Chugalug2

I don't doubt that you understand all too well,...

I don't doubt that you understand all too well, KBW10101, but are determined to remain obtuse. I am only interested in those personnel whose duties require them to fly as part of a normally...
Forum: Military Aviation
8th Nov 2019, 06:58
Replies: 142
Views: 74,995
Posted By Chugalug2

LR guessed right, I was referring to RPAS...

LR guessed right, I was referring to RPAS operators. The only point I am making is that if aircrew badges are awarded to those who perform their duties from the ground while denying them to aircrew...
Forum: Military Aviation
7th Nov 2019, 21:34
Replies: 142
Views: 74,995
Posted By Chugalug2

Door Slider, thanks for the reassurance that RAF...

Door Slider, thanks for the reassurance that RAF Cabin Crew training is as good as if not better than Air Tanker civil training. If that is as good as, if not better, than other civil airline...
Forum: Military Aviation
7th Nov 2019, 15:14
Replies: 142
Views: 74,995
Posted By Chugalug2

Couldn't agree more Nutty. That's the problem....

Couldn't agree more Nutty. That's the problem. The RAF recruits its Cabin Crew into a Ground Trade, offering them one, perhaps two, flying tours, the remaining service being in ground waitering. The...
Forum: Military Aviation
6th Nov 2019, 22:02
Replies: 142
Views: 74,995
Posted By Chugalug2

I won't be handing out flying badges, sgts...

I won't be handing out flying badges, sgts chevrons, or even Brevets, as you well know. If the RAF has got itself into a corner where it is handing out aircrew badges to those who perform their...
Forum: Military Aviation
5th Nov 2019, 17:28
Replies: 142
Views: 74,995
Posted By Chugalug2

Nutty, I think we've been round this buoy...

Nutty, I think we've been round this buoy already. There are many personnel who are temporarily attached to a crew for various reasons, ground engineers as you mention, PJIs for paradrops, Air...
Forum: Military Aviation
5th Nov 2019, 07:04
Replies: 142
Views: 74,995
Posted By Chugalug2

Excellent post, BP. The many different initials...

Excellent post, BP. The many different initials that have appeared within the laurel leafed half wings worn by RAF aircrew from its very inception have come and gone, but ALL members of RAF aircrew...
Forum: Military Aviation
3rd Nov 2019, 23:51
Replies: 142
Views: 74,995
Posted By Chugalug2

It seems that the 1 for every 50 seats (not pax)...

It seems that the 1 for every 50 seats (not pax) as described by BEagle is the norm. However wide bodied aircraft (like the Voyager) require I CC for every door exit (rather than window o/wing exits)...
Forum: Military Aviation
3rd Nov 2019, 10:46
Replies: 142
Views: 74,995
Posted By Chugalug2

There should be one member of cabin crew...

There should be one member of cabin crew available to man each exit equipped with a slide, dependent on pax numbers. The Voyager has 8 such exits and hence the need for max 8 cabin crew. The 737 ISTR...
Forum: Military Aviation
2nd Nov 2019, 09:33
Replies: 142
Views: 74,995
Posted By Chugalug2

Your insistence on repeatedly correcting the word...

Your insistence on repeatedly correcting the word Brevet for Flying Badge and your reversion to PC mode shows that you've run out of argument. Hardly surprising given the thinness of it...
Forum: Military Aviation
2nd Nov 2019, 00:55
Replies: 142
Views: 74,995
Posted By Chugalug2

It seems pretty clear that the RAF would not be...

It seems pretty clear that the RAF would not be happy to award CC an Aircrew Brevet, but happy or not, CC are aircrew, the Regulator says so! You say that CC must jump through the various paper hoops...
Forum: Military Aviation
2nd Nov 2019, 00:03
Replies: 142
Views: 74,995
Posted By Chugalug2

LJ, you illustrate entirely why RAF Cabin Crew...

LJ, you illustrate entirely why RAF Cabin Crew should be aircrew and wear an appropriate Brevet. You see them as airborne waiters, the various appellations that you list underline to you your view of...
Forum: Military Aviation
1st Nov 2019, 20:09
Replies: 142
Views: 74,995
Posted By Chugalug2

Once again you illustrate my point better than I...

Once again you illustrate my point better than I can, LJ. Once again thank you. It is little wonder that such attitudes exist when it is common knowledge that recruitment is from amongst Messing...
Forum: Military Aviation
1st Nov 2019, 16:42
Replies: 142
Views: 74,995
Posted By Chugalug2

DS, could you spell out for me the significance...

DS, could you spell out for me the significance of "A ground trade with an airborne role"? What does that mean? What ground trade do they practice? It seems to me all this is a way of having cabin...
Forum: Military Aviation
31st Oct 2019, 09:23
Replies: 142
Views: 74,995
Posted By Chugalug2

LJ, you make my case far more persuasively than I...

LJ, you make my case far more persuasively than I ever could and for which I must thank you. I leave your comments quoted above (edited down only to make their thrust the more apparent) to speak for...
Forum: Military Aviation
31st Oct 2019, 00:15
Replies: 142
Views: 74,995
Posted By Chugalug2

ES, it's not the squaddies that concern me most...

ES, it's not the squaddies that concern me most for they at least can be dealt with in the traditional ways. It is on the contrary the underlying theme throughout this thread that concerns me. They...
Forum: Military Aviation
30th Oct 2019, 22:57
Replies: 142
Views: 74,995
Posted By Chugalug2

Sigh. We all know that the official name is Badge...

Sigh. We all know that the official name is Badge not Brevet, because the pedants are for ever telling us so. Yet we persist in calling it a Brevet. Horses and Water I guess. What can you do?
...
Forum: Military Aviation
30th Oct 2019, 13:53
Replies: 142
Views: 74,995
Posted By Chugalug2

I would offer the same LJ, but it all revolves on...

I would offer the same LJ, but it all revolves on what we mean by 'it'.

What I think matters is that RAF Cabin Crew be fully acknowledged as aircrew, not only by the MAA but by the entire RAF....
Forum: Military Aviation
29th Oct 2019, 08:09
Replies: 142
Views: 74,995
Posted By Chugalug2

KBW10101, the zeal with which you keep quoting...

KBW10101, the zeal with which you keep quoting AP1358 makes it appear that you have a dog in this race. The constant churning of flying badge regs recently suggests that far from being written in...
Forum: Military Aviation
27th Oct 2019, 23:07
Replies: 142
Views: 74,995
Posted By Chugalug2

cs, sounds par for the course certainly. Just...

cs, sounds par for the course certainly. Just remembered our 30 Sqn a/g was on Battles not the Wellesley, the first being deemed front line, the latter not in 1940. Both were totally obsolete of...
Forum: Military Aviation
27th Oct 2019, 11:40
Replies: 142
Views: 74,995
Posted By Chugalug2

It wasn't only the brevet issue that upset them....

It wasn't only the brevet issue that upset them. We had an ex Wellesley a/g in the 30 Squadron Association. The ocifers up front both got gongs for pressing home an attack on the Albert Canal...
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