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15th Mar 2024, 14:34
Replies: 415
Views: 188,853
Posted By CBSITCB

The wider point I was trying to make (perhaps...

The wider point I was trying to make (perhaps badly) is that FPRSA was delivered to Swanwick by Frequentis while AMS-UK was delivered to Heathrow by Comsoft. Two completely different systems. The...
15th Mar 2024, 11:49
Replies: 415
Views: 188,853
Posted By CBSITCB

There are many errors, obfuscations, and...

There are many errors, obfuscations, and contradictions in this Interim Report. I hope some of the comments in this whole thread get back to the panel so they can address them in the final report,...
28th Sep 2023, 08:13
Replies: 170
Views: 98,806
Posted By CBSITCB

The state of his necktie whilst on duty is a clue...

The state of his necktie whilst on duty is a clue to his character. I thought the same about Boris.
11th Sep 2023, 08:21
Replies: 415
Views: 188,853
Posted By CBSITCB

Don’t confuse the old software in NAS (which...

Don’t confuse the old software in NAS (which didn’t take part in this failure) with the more recent software in FPRSA, which is the component that failed on this occasion.
9th Sep 2023, 21:01
Replies: 415
Views: 188,853
Posted By CBSITCB

Go on then - I like a laugh. (Talk at the time...

Go on then - I like a laugh. (Talk at the time mentioned Bovis Cup, but that's not funny.)
6th Sep 2023, 22:38
Replies: 415
Views: 188,853
Posted By CBSITCB

Ryanair’s Michael O’Leary said...

Ryanair’s Michael O’Leary said [[url]https://corporate.ryanair.com/news/ryanair-rejects-nats-whitewash-report/?market=en&fbclid=IwAR3prT8auG3wrZGt_sHH1fFvA0lQJAyJWUKm1HLpioYJBwVTP5bez-46-xU]:
...
6th Sep 2023, 21:51
Replies: 415
Views: 188,853
Posted By CBSITCB

The airline sent the plan to IFPS which checked...

The airline sent the plan to IFPS which checked it was in the correct format (which it was) and accepted it. IFPS passed it to Swanwick at the appropriate time. There was an anomaly in the route...
6th Sep 2023, 07:43
Replies: 415
Views: 188,853
Posted By CBSITCB

The report states the particular process that...

The report states the particular process that failed was unique to NATS. No other FPRS has to convert flight plans to NAS format - only the UK has NAS.

Good ‘ole NAS - tried and tested technology....
1st Sep 2023, 10:52
Replies: 415
Views: 188,853
Posted By CBSITCB

I’m not aware of a detailed report (I haven’t...

I’m not aware of a detailed report (I haven’t searched for one). I used these two sources:
...
1st Sep 2023, 10:47
Replies: 415
Views: 188,853
Posted By CBSITCB

In the case of the 2014 Los Angeles failure, the...

In the case of the 2014 Los Angeles failure, the crash stemmed from “The system evaluated all possible altitudes along the U-2’s planned flight path for potential collisions with other aircraft.”
...
31st Aug 2023, 21:44
Replies: 415
Views: 188,853
Posted By CBSITCB

There was a ‘Route B' - manual ops. Very...

There was a ‘Route B' - manual ops. Very different, and safe (a point that NATS labours). Nobody died.
31st Aug 2023, 15:53
Replies: 415
Views: 188,853
Posted By CBSITCB

Beginning in 2011, after several decades of...

Beginning in 2011, after several decades of abortive attempts, the FAA successfully introduced a new ground-up FDPS that included replacement of the 1960s En Route Stage A software. This was the $2.1...
31st Aug 2023, 13:36
Replies: 415
Views: 188,853
Posted By CBSITCB

Originally the 9020 hardware running the NAS En...

Originally the 9020 hardware running the NAS En Route Stage A software - collectively the Flight Plan Processing System(FPPS) - was part of the wider US National Airspace System. Hence "NAS".

The...
31st Aug 2023, 10:13
Replies: 415
Views: 188,853
Posted By CBSITCB

I strongly refute the (widely held) belief that...

I strongly refute the (widely held) belief that the main Swanwick ATC system is based on 1970s technology!

IBM installed a prototype 9020 system at the Jacksonville centre in 1967. The first...
30th Aug 2023, 11:22
Replies: 415
Views: 188,853
Posted By CBSITCB

The NATS CEO indicated this morning that a piece...

The NATS CEO indicated this morning that a piece of the system (which has to be the FPPS) failed because it didn’t recognize a message, which was almost certainly an FPL.

People are questioning...
30th Aug 2023, 08:59
Replies: 415
Views: 188,853
Posted By CBSITCB

A compass and a DI are separate and different...

A compass and a DI are separate and different things.
30th Aug 2023, 06:47
Replies: 415
Views: 188,853
Posted By CBSITCB

The link was actually to post 12. I don’t...

The link was actually to post 12. I don’t understand the rest of your comments.
29th Aug 2023, 16:35
Replies: 415
Views: 188,853
Posted By CBSITCB

[/QUOTE] Saving this post just in case I...

[/QUOTE]

Saving this post just in case I need to refer to it later...;)
29th Aug 2023, 13:37
Replies: 415
Views: 188,853
Posted By CBSITCB

No -...

No - https://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/654461-u-k-nats-systems-failure.html?ispreloading=1#post11492878
29th Aug 2023, 13:12
Replies: 415
Views: 188,853
Posted By CBSITCB

There is, and it is extensive. It would have...

There is, and it is extensive.

It would have been better to have called it the trigger FPL rather than the erroneous FPL. It was “bad” in that it caused the crash, but not necessarily incorrectly...
29th Aug 2023, 12:52
Replies: 415
Views: 188,853
Posted By CBSITCB

There is a redundant communication path.

There is a redundant communication path.
29th Aug 2023, 12:50
Replies: 415
Views: 188,853
Posted By CBSITCB

I think that's exactly what happened.

I think that's exactly what happened.
29th Aug 2023, 12:46
Replies: 415
Views: 188,853
Posted By CBSITCB

Whilst the 9020 was indeed based on IBM S/360...

Whilst the 9020 was indeed based on IBM S/360 technology it was rather more than "just six 360s". The 9020 was being designed for the FAA well before the new S/360 line was announced. In fact, this...
29th Aug 2023, 11:46
Replies: 415
Views: 188,853
Posted By CBSITCB

Just listening the usual journalistic blather...

Just listening the usual journalistic blather about "why no backup system?". Of course there is an online backup system to automatically switch to, but this almost exclusively caters for only...
29th Aug 2023, 11:13
Replies: 415
Views: 188,853
Posted By CBSITCB

Flight Plans (FPLs) are filed in ICAO standard...

Flight Plans (FPLs) are filed in ICAO standard format. Part of the FPL is the route. Each national ANSP must, within its own specific flight plan processing system (FPPS), convert the FPL route into...
28th Aug 2023, 18:24
Replies: 415
Views: 188,853
Posted By CBSITCB

You don't know how close to the truth that is -...

You don't know how close to the truth that is - VERY close!😁
6th Jan 2022, 12:01
Replies: 22
Views: 8,198
Posted By CBSITCB

And on the subject of manual plotting tables for...

And on the subject of manual plotting tables for intercepts, here’s a fascinating instructional UK film from 1955. And more TLAs than you can shake a stick at!

AIR DEFENCE CONTROL AND REPORTING...
Forum: Rotorheads
31st Aug 2021, 13:52
Replies: 16
Views: 6,316
Posted By CBSITCB

But stretching the aspect ratio to make the...

But stretching the aspect ratio to make the spaces look wider is cheating!
26th Oct 2020, 12:57
Replies: 2,429
Views: 2,908,869
Posted By CBSITCB

Mr Henderson appeared in court today. He was...

Mr Henderson appeared in court today. He was granted bail and will go on trial in October 2021.
...
10th Feb 2020, 10:53
Replies: 264
Views: 363,906
Posted By CBSITCB

Dave's graph with glideslope added. ...

Dave's graph with glideslope added.
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/775x375/gs_fd86eb0eced53b96226a70948bc220535d6ed27f.png
12th May 2019, 11:33
Replies: 41
Views: 26,357
Posted By CBSITCB

“Eyewitnesses on social media have suggested no...

“Eyewitnesses on social media have suggested no cars were hit and all those on board the aircraft have survived.”

Let’s hope that is correct...
12th May 2019, 11:09
Replies: 41
Views: 26,357
Posted By CBSITCB

Light aircraft crash near Abergavenny

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-48243610

Part of a dual carriageway has been closed amid reports of a light aircraft crash.

South Wales Fire and Rescue Service said it has been called to...
17th Feb 2019, 08:12
Replies: 2,429
Views: 2,908,869
Posted By CBSITCB

Under aircraft insurance regulations ‘third...

Under aircraft insurance regulations ‘third parties’ and ‘passengers’ are separate entities. This remains true even if both are collectively covered under a combined insurance policy.

A passenger...
10th Feb 2019, 16:43
Replies: 2,429
Views: 2,908,869
Posted By CBSITCB

And it will go wrong, because they will be...

And it will go wrong, because they will be illegal private flights - but private flights nevertheless.
10th Feb 2019, 16:30
Replies: 2,429
Views: 2,908,869
Posted By CBSITCB

If it is discovered that this is illegal public...

If it is discovered that this is illegal public transport then, de facto, it is a private flight. If the pilot only had a PPL how can it be anything else? He could pretend he had a CPL, or ATPL, or...
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