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Old 28th Aug 2023, 11:05
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U.K. NATS Systems Failure

U.K. NATS down, Major system failure.

Major disruption to both incoming and departing flights.

https://news.sky.com/story/network-w...ports-12949638

'Network-wide failure of UK air traffic control systems', Loganair reports

There has been a 'network-wide failure of UK air traffic control systems', according to the airline Loganair.

Sky News has had reports of passengers on other airlines outside of the UK being told that the air traffic control network is down and their flight will be delayed.

NATS, the national air traffic controllers, said in a statement: "We are currently experiencing a technical issue and have applied traffic flow restrictions to maintain safety. Engineers are working to find and the fix the fault.

"We apologise for any inconvenience this may cause."
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Hilarious…another example of the UK’s crumbling infrastructure. Don’t we build resilience in anymore?
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Old 28th Aug 2023, 11:16
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12+ hour slot delays in some cases.
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United Kingdom is experiencing a Flight Data Processing System failure.
Scottish and London FIRs are regulated at low rates with very high individual delays.

Currently there is no indication of when a solution for the failure will be available so no improvements for flights entering UK airspace are forseen in the near future.

Further information will be published when available.

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Old 28th Aug 2023, 11:24
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Hacked?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-66637156

Mind you - doesn't exactly look quiet ...



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Old 28th Aug 2023, 11:47
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Yes, but flights will continue to destination if they're already airborne. Others won't be able to depart. Shouldn't it thin out over the next few hours?
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Old 28th Aug 2023, 11:50
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From Eurocontrol public portal at 1112 UTC..

United Kingdom is experiencing a Flight Data Processing System failure.
Scottish and London FIRs are regulated at low rates with very high individual delays.

Currently there is no indication of when a solution for the failure will be available so no improvements for flights entering UK airspace are forseen in the near future.

Further information will be published when available.
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Hilarious…another example of the UK’s crumbling infrastructure. Don’t we build resilience in anymore?
But surely when we build stuff resilience is not in the current years budget ……so just pass the parcel.
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Old 28th Aug 2023, 12:21
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Is this possibly Russian Hacking after Ukrainian drones caused delays at Moscow’s airports ?
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Is this possibly Russian Hacking after Ukrainian drones caused delays at Moscow’s airports ?
I doubt it
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I for one am glad I’m not flying today, inbound on an RCF flight plan.
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Old 28th Aug 2023, 12:44
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Originally Posted by hobbit1983
I doubt it
Really? Seems too much of a coincidence that this has happened on one of the busiest days of the year, aviation wise.
Cant remember such a serious system crash in my 25 years of civil flying, not counting French mischief !
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Here in Jersey we are starting to see transatlantic westbound routing over us, which don’t usually come this way. So far, there have been at least 4 KLM EHAM departures overhead plus a Brussels A/L Washington flight. This almost never happens, even when NAT tracks are a bit southerly. Also apparent are German transatlantic, although this is fairly common with southerly tracks. Looks like we’ll see a lot of different a/c this afternoon & evening. Although, “see” is not quite accurate - as it is quite cloudy at the moment.
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Originally Posted by RetiredBA/BY
Really? Seems too much of a coincidence that this has happened on one of the busiest days of the year, aviation wise.
Cant remember such a serious system crash in my 25 years of civil flying, not counting French mischief !
I can't rule it out. But I'd apply Occam's razor; more likely to be Murphy's Law combined with a lack of resilience/cockup in IT systems...
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CFMU NOP now recommending operators consider cancelling flights from EG and EI airports to EU.

Merry Christmas 😬
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CFMU NOP now recommending operators consider cancelling flights from EG and EI airports to EU.

Merry Christmas 😬
CFMU? NOP?
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Originally Posted by bubbs
CFMU NOP now recommending operators consider cancelling flights from EG and EI airports to EU.

Merry Christmas 😬
Not been CFMU for years!

Network Operations Portal.
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Originally Posted by RetiredBA/BY
Really? Seems too much of a coincidence that this has happened on one of the busiest days of the year, aviation wise.
Cant remember such a serious system crash in my 25 years of civil flying, not counting French mischief !
Do you not remember Dec 12 2014 ?

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Do you not remember Dec 12 2014 ?
And 2009?
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