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Posted By Richard228

DH

As I see it, as soon as BASSA members vote in agreement with the new deal, DH has no option but to resign immediately. He has only held on to the post in BASSA, as a non BA employee, only because...

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12th May 2011, 13:29

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Posted By Richard228

over to you DH.....

So the union is going to recommend agreement by its members, and sacked reps will not be reinstated. BASSA and CC89 will be merged to create one branch... called Unite.

I wonder how long it will...

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12th May 2011, 07:29

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Posted By Richard228

Hotel Mode

Thanks for the clarification.... could be an interesting day....

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12th May 2011, 06:41

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Posted By Richard228

confused....

I'm a little confused as to why Unite have called a meeting at a seperate location, half an hour before the BASSA meeting was scheduled.

Has the BASSA meeting now been cancelled, and is just the...

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10th May 2011, 10:01

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Posted By Richard228

I would have thought so, but then again, if BASSA...

I would have thought so, but then again, if BASSA were to ballot members on accepting a new offer, then the ballot could have the two options of "Accept" or "Strike", meaning that an extension of the...

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9th May 2011, 07:50

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Posted By Richard228

full circle?

It seems ironic to me that this whole farce started with a "show of hands" by BASSA to not negotiate, and now, after refusing BASSA members a proper democratic vote on a settlement, BASSA again wants...

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8th May 2011, 11:33

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Posted By Richard228

The devil eyes picture is still there when I go...

The devil eyes picture is still there when I go that web page...

very unproffessional of a trade union to have such nonsense on its site IMHO.

Imagine the cries of bullying if BA had a devil...

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14th Apr 2011, 13:44

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Posted By Richard228

perhaps to send another message by having another...

perhaps to send another message by having another ballot - that'll show 'em! :sad:

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30th Mar 2011, 15:47

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Posted By Richard228

mrpony

excellent summation of BA's stance to date, I think.

BA have won so much already, whilst BASSA has failed to make any wins so far. This has never been about Union busting... and playing the long...

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28th Mar 2011, 09:00

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Posted By Richard228

DH's latest

Quite the opposite, in fact Mr DH.

Bassa gets thousands to vote on another pointless round of Industrial Action, as I'm sure will happen again today, but far fewer ever take that Industial Action...

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15th Mar 2011, 08:05

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Posted By Richard228

Chuchinchow

This works both ways Chuchinchow

If this is none of our business, then why does BASSA/Unite run full page adverts in our national newspapers?

This union is constantly trying to win public...

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10th Mar 2011, 09:36

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Posted By Richard228

Which would make the illustrious leader a...

Which would make the illustrious leader a terrible poker player.

It is only the perceived actual threat that will harm forward bookings on BA......

to say you are bluffing, does not make a good...

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1st Mar 2011, 08:45

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Posted By Richard228

Interesting Tightslot, thanks, i never knew that....

Interesting Tightslot, thanks, i never knew that.

Sorry if this is straying OT, but could I ask if staff have the choice to report directly to LCY?

For example if you had a member of staff who...

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17th Feb 2011, 19:38

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Posted By Richard228

MPN11

I'm analysis'd out for now I'm afraid!;)

I could go on... but need I?!

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17th Feb 2011, 16:08

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Posted By Richard228

want us to take you seriously Unite/BASSA? then...

want us to take you seriously Unite/BASSA? then tell the world exactly what was posted, regardless of to whom it was posted, and let us the traveling public make a decission on this.

Quite...

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17th Feb 2011, 16:04

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Posted By Richard228

Good for BA! so what this pilot heard is that BA...

Good for BA! so what this pilot heard is that BA will protect their employees from threatening behaviour - I should hope so!

Had BA said they would not proect them, that would be smoething to...

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17th Feb 2011, 15:59

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Posted By Richard228

hardly surprising. Been there myself, you hear...

hardly surprising. Been there myself, you hear the employee, and the agruments, and have a pre-typed letter ready at the end of the meeting, so that you can give to them immmediately, when a...

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17th Feb 2011, 15:50

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Posted By Richard228

duh! - wasn't that list was given to the trade...

duh! - wasn't that list was given to the trade union when the last deal was agreed? (before the union then broke their promise to ballot the membership)

As I recall, and its in the public domain,...

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14th Feb 2011, 15:25

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Posted By Richard228

let's not forget....

in case anyone (read BASSA) needs reminding of the fragile state of the airline industry, BBC are today reporting an expected $6 billion drop in airline earnings in 2011, through increases in the oil...

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13th Feb 2011, 18:21

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Posted By Richard228

LD12986

Companies House records show that Bassa Limited has been incorporated by a Polish gentleman named Mr Janusz Rozycki.

name means nothing to me.. perhaps someone else!?

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12th Feb 2011, 16:01

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Posted By Richard228

litebullbs

I agree Len absolutely has a right to earn this wage from unite, but it does make him a hipocrite when he points the finger at Willie Walsh and his (also deserved) salary.

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10th Feb 2011, 14:50

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Posted By Richard228

is it just me?

I'm so bored with the misuse of the word "bully" by Unite/BASSA.

Just because you dont get your way when you throw a hissy fit, does not amount to bullying.

Withdrawal of discretionary perks...

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8th Feb 2011, 14:42

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Posted By Richard228

you could not make this up....! re-arrange...

you could not make this up....!

re-arrange the words

piss-up BASSA arrange couldn't a brewery in a

For how long has it been clear to all and sundry who care to look into the detail of this...

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22nd Jan 2011, 17:26

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Posted By Richard228

notlangley

My post is correct.

ballot 14/12/2009 = 12780 members
ballot 21/1/2011 = 10220 members

People may have left for different reasons, I'm sure there's illness, death and a whole host of other...

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22nd Jan 2011, 14:14

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Posted By Richard228

game over...

It seems to me that we're now at the end of this dispute from a passengers perspective.

The improtant details to me are:
2560 members have left BASSA/Unite since BA asked for the CSD to work...

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10th Dec 2010, 09:23

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Posted By Richard228

I agree Juan. Another big impact, if you switch...

I agree Juan. Another big impact, if you switch it the other way around, is the potential knock on effect on British employees working for foreign airlines, eg QF's London base, by implication,...

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8th Dec 2010, 15:34

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Posted By Richard228

Latest From Amicus

Latest from Amicus, who haven't been invited to the party...

source : . LATEST NEWS UPDATES (http://uniteba.com/LATESTNEWSUPDATES.html)

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7th Dec 2010, 13:59

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Posted By Richard228

so if I have got this right... - Employees...

so if I have got this right...

- Employees had three months to put their case through an Employment Tribunial, where the burden of proof would have been on the employer.

- Now three months have...

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1st Dec 2010, 08:44

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Posted By Richard228

fl dutchman

Like all these things, it will be up to the courts to ultimately decide.

When you have evidence in minutes with meetings with Unite during the last IA, and recorded TV interviews, where the Union...

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30th Nov 2010, 14:52

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Posted By Richard228

Who said what now?

thanks for the post Diplome...

One particular bit that is funny is this:

When it was actually Amicus/CC89 themselves who said this - and it is on their own website! :ugh:

see "Amicus Update"...

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30th Nov 2010, 13:51

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Posted By Richard228

litebulbsbut isn't that the point? Had BASSA...

litebulbsbut isn't that the point?

Had BASSA negotiated, they would have been in a position to either stop (as was on the table) or influence Mixed Fleet, its rate of delivery and routes?

By...

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30th Nov 2010, 12:32

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Posted By Richard228

but when it was offered before, it was based upon...

but when it was offered before, it was based upon not being a member of the union at a past date.

As an employee cannot retrosectively not be a member of the union, it could not entice people to...

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30th Nov 2010, 11:18

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Posted By Richard228

jimd-f

one of the crucial points to consider, of such an offer, is that it is not enticing people to leave the union, as that would be illegal.

I could see BA doing this again, for the reasons you state,...

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30th Nov 2010, 10:33

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Posted By Richard228

AV Flyer

Seeing as it was the very same Len McCluskey who put his foot in it, by announcing the dates of previous industrial action, when a potential deal was on the table, on the understanding that strike...

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30th Nov 2010, 10:19

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