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Forum: ATC Issues
25th Aug 2011, 11:12
Replies: 2,329
Views: 434,151
Posted By Frank Disclosure

I voted no. Management clearly do not value...

I voted no. Management clearly do not value engineers. On my own personal work to rule and overtime boycott now.
Forum: ATC Issues
8th Aug 2011, 11:49
Replies: 2,329
Views: 434,151
Posted By Frank Disclosure

Must have come as a shock to some of NATS's...

Must have come as a shock to some of NATS's senior managers this morning when they realised they do actually need Engineers.
Forum: ATC Issues
5th Aug 2011, 15:28
Replies: 2,329
Views: 434,151
Posted By Frank Disclosure

That is a phrase I usually associate with people...

That is a phrase I usually associate with people being dismissed. Were any reasons for these 'changes' given?
Forum: ATC Issues
5th Aug 2011, 12:53
Replies: 2,329
Views: 434,151
Posted By Frank Disclosure

I'm not in work today so haven't read NATS net to...

I'm not in work today so haven't read NATS net to see the reasons given or exactly who has gone along with Ian Mills, could someone enlighten me?
Forum: ATC Issues
16th Jul 2011, 14:22
Replies: 2,329
Views: 434,151
Posted By Frank Disclosure

Standard Noise I'd imagine the first...

Standard Noise


I'd imagine the first things to start causing problems would be radars.
Forum: ATC Issues
13th Jul 2011, 16:05
Replies: 2,329
Views: 434,151
Posted By Frank Disclosure

No idea what the ATSAs are planning but rumour is...

No idea what the ATSAs are planning but rumour is unless we get parity with the flip-flop brigade the engineers will be looking at an overtime boycott and a work to rule.

Maybe a few weeks of flow...
Forum: ATC Issues
28th Jun 2011, 06:41
Replies: 2,329
Views: 434,151
Posted By Frank Disclosure

The ATCOs settled for less than RPI and that was...

The ATCOs settled for less than RPI and that was entirely their decision.

NATS engineers work very hard and we have delivered real cost savings to the company. Plus there is a lot of overtime...
Forum: ATC Issues
25th Jun 2011, 15:29
Replies: 2,329
Views: 434,151
Posted By Frank Disclosure

The Engineers were never going to vote yes to a...

The Engineers were never going to vote yes to a deal that gave them a lower percentage increase than the Controllers were offered.

After all the extra work so many of us have taken on and all the...
Forum: ATC Issues
10th Aug 2010, 16:35
Replies: 119
Views: 35,569
Posted By Frank Disclosure

Given the state of Spain's finances - the country...

Given the state of Spain's finances - the country is broke, has 20% unemployment and virtually 0% growth - then the ATCO's old wage structure looks obscene.
Forum: ATC Issues
3rd Aug 2010, 21:31
Replies: 119
Views: 35,569
Posted By Frank Disclosure

The Spanish government should call for Paul...

The Spanish government should call for Paul Barron, he knows how to reduce ATCOs T&Cs without them getting all upperty.
Forum: ATC Issues
9th Jul 2010, 20:03
Replies: 30
Views: 6,375
Posted By Frank Disclosure

You don't have to leave NATS to draw your pension.

You don't have to leave NATS to draw your pension.
Forum: ATC Issues
9th Jul 2010, 20:01
Replies: 30
Views: 6,375
Posted By Frank Disclosure

Well the guys who won ATCOs such great T&Cs...

Well the guys who won ATCOs such great T&Cs didn't come to work dressed for the beach.

I get on fine wearing trousers to work thanks, have you never noticed Swanwick has air conditioning.
Forum: ATC Issues
9th Jul 2010, 16:11
Replies: 30
Views: 6,375
Posted By Frank Disclosure

Today’s ATCOs have been enjoying the T&Cs and...

Today’s ATCOs have been enjoying the T&Cs and benefits that their predecessors of 20 or 30 years ago won for them.

When Paul Barron challenged the willingness today’s of ATCO’s to standup and...
Forum: ATC Issues
12th Oct 2009, 07:44
Replies: 16
Views: 3,111
Posted By Frank Disclosure

PH-UKU...

PH-UKU (http://www.pprune.org/members/53504-ph-uku)
...
Forum: ATC Issues
11th Oct 2009, 20:47
Replies: 16
Views: 3,111
Posted By Frank Disclosure

At the current rate of government borrowing £16bn...

At the current rate of government borrowing £16bn will not even cover a month.

I say we should just sell off Scotland as a job lot, that should keep us going till Christmas :O
Forum: ATC Issues
13th Jul 2009, 21:34
Replies: 120
Views: 26,057
Posted By Frank Disclosure

wanderingdon...

wanderingdon (http://www.pprune.org/members/243468-wanderingdon) I don’t hold ATCOs in contempt, just the boorish titty wankery ones who go around thinking they are somehow better than everyone else...
Forum: ATC Issues
10th Jul 2009, 23:00
Replies: 120
Views: 26,057
Posted By Frank Disclosure

kats-I...

kats-I (http://www.pprune.org/members/295852-kats-i)

I've spent many hours listening and watching ATCOs do their job. Yes I know the responsibility...
Forum: ATC Issues
10th Jul 2009, 22:47
Replies: 120
Views: 26,057
Posted By Frank Disclosure

Vote NO Not in the least. I was merely...

Vote NO
Not in the least.

I was merely point out to the rather arrogant tits who refer to people at CTC as Office Monkeys that they too work in an office and at a desk to boot!
Forum: ATC Issues
6th Jul 2009, 22:08
Replies: 120
Views: 26,057
Posted By Frank Disclosure

kats-I...

kats-I (http://www.pprune.org/members/295852-kats-i)
...
Forum: ATC Issues
6th Jul 2009, 19:11
Replies: 120
Views: 26,057
Posted By Frank Disclosure

Over+Out...

Over+Out (http://www.pprune.org/members/22647-over-out)
I think you’re being a little harsh on Wham!


privatesandwiches (http://www.pprune.org/members/283424-privatesandwiches)
...
Forum: ATC Issues
5th Jul 2009, 21:34
Replies: 120
Views: 26,057
Posted By Frank Disclosure

privatesandwiches...

privatesandwiches (http://www.pprune.org/members/283424-privatesandwiches)
...
Forum: ATC Issues
27th Jun 2009, 22:01
Replies: 2,329
Views: 434,151
Posted By Frank Disclosure

kats-I...

kats-I (http://www.pprune.org/members/295852-kats-i)

Yeah I guess having your collective intelligence mocked can be a little tedious.


I saw 9 (male) ATCOs wearing Flip Flops the other day,...
Forum: ATC Issues
23rd Jun 2009, 23:15
Replies: 2,329
Views: 434,151
Posted By Frank Disclosure

11K-AVML mr.777 How does this...

11K-AVML

mr.777

How does this wish for ATCOs & CTC to work together square with your posting on another thread

mr.777

I 'm sure if you or one of your ATCO friends that have been...
Forum: ATC Issues
23rd Jun 2009, 22:56
Replies: 120
Views: 26,057
Posted By Frank Disclosure

So you wear flip flops & long shorts to work,...

So you wear flip flops & long shorts to work, think a lame website called crapunion.co.uk is hilarious and you like to called people who aren't ATCOs monkeys.

My, my, how clever ATCOs are.
Forum: ATC Issues
22nd Jun 2009, 18:19
Replies: 120
Views: 26,057
Posted By Frank Disclosure

ImnotanERIC...

ImnotanERIC (http://www.pprune.org/members/177566-imnotaneric) I thought I’d preserve your post as it looked like one of those late night posts that often disappears by the morning and I didn’t want...
Forum: ATC Issues
21st Jun 2009, 22:47
Forum: ATC Issues
21st Jun 2009, 21:30
Replies: 2,329
Views: 434,151
Posted By Frank Disclosure

You can always join the T&G, or Unite as I...

You can always join the T&G, or Unite as I believe they are now know, and they will represent you at disciplinary hearings.
Forum: ATC Issues
21st Jun 2009, 18:32
Replies: 120
Views: 26,057
Posted By Frank Disclosure

mr.777...

mr.777 (http://www.pprune.org/members/58310-mr-777)

Really? From my original post...

So where was the downgrading or diversion? Or did you think it best to create an imaginary one?
...
Forum: ATC Issues
20th Jun 2009, 08:17
Replies: 120
Views: 26,057
Posted By Frank Disclosure

mr.777 A diversionary question :) ...

mr.777

A diversionary question :)


If you re read my original post you’ll see I never said long shorts and flip flops had anything to do with the ATCOs withdrawing from the working...
Forum: ATC Issues
17th Jun 2009, 17:01
Replies: 120
Views: 26,057
Posted By Frank Disclosure

mr.777...

mr.777 (http://www.pprune.org/members/58310-mr-777)
...
Forum: ATC Issues
16th Jun 2009, 16:16
Replies: 120
Views: 26,057
Posted By Frank Disclosure

I don't think Paul Barron & Ian Mills will be...

I don't think Paul Barron & Ian Mills will be particularly upset about the ATCO branch withdrawing from the Working Together Agreement.

They are not daft, I imagine they know exactly what savings...
Forum: ATC Issues
31st May 2009, 13:51
Replies: 66
Views: 9,591
Posted By Frank Disclosure

NATS £45m Cost Savings - Suggestion Box

I'm sure I am not alone in being slightly amazed that we have apparently been operating as a business, and people have been picking up large bonuses, even though the company has been carrying £45m of...
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