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Forum: Military Aviation
28th Jun 2011, 08:38
Replies: 8,153
Views: 1,318,627
Posted By Thor Nogson

That was what I thought. The analysis of...

That was what I thought. The analysis of available data suggests waypoint change at approx 21 seconds before impact. This is several seconds after the implied switch off of the TANS. Something...
Forum: Military Aviation
27th Jun 2011, 16:47
Replies: 8,153
Views: 1,318,627
Posted By Thor Nogson

Dalek, I understand now, thanks for being so...

Dalek,

I understand now, thanks for being so patient.

But to clarify one thing, for them to switch off TANS before the last waypoint change would seem to indicate that something (forever...
Forum: Military Aviation
27th Jun 2011, 12:59
Replies: 8,153
Views: 1,318,627
Posted By Thor Nogson

Now I'm confused. The RACAL report puts the best...

Now I'm confused. The RACAL report puts the best guess at the waypoint change being approx 21 seconds before impact, which is after the calculated switch off of time of the TANS. Does that make...
Forum: Military Aviation
27th Jun 2011, 11:38
Replies: 8,153
Views: 1,318,627
Posted By Thor Nogson

If that is the way it works, then what conclusion...

If that is the way it works, then what conclusion should we draw factoring in on what you suggest about care used on inputting time on startup, the switch position after the crash, and the 26+...
Forum: Military Aviation
8th Jun 2011, 09:48
Replies: 8,153
Views: 1,318,627
Posted By Thor Nogson

I disagree, I think it is a fair summary, except...

I disagree, I think it is a fair summary, except that it was proved to be unsafe. To be honest, I'm not sure what the point you are trying to make is?



Fair enough, but there are a million...
Forum: Military Aviation
23rd May 2011, 13:41
Replies: 8,153
Views: 1,318,627
Posted By Thor Nogson

True, but not (deliberately) by those who have a...

True, but not (deliberately) by those who have a vested interest in keeping it quiet, which was my point.

With that scenario (airworthiness, RTS etc), there are a number of things that should...
Forum: Military Aviation
23rd May 2011, 11:18
Replies: 8,153
Views: 1,318,627
Posted By Thor Nogson

AA, at the risk of dragging this on, the only way...

AA, at the risk of dragging this on, the only way the people "in on the act" would keep their mouths shut this long would be if they were all culpable for what happened. That would be a strong...
Forum: Military Aviation
25th Dec 2010, 19:44
Replies: 8,153
Views: 1,318,627
Posted By Thor Nogson

Since no-one knows what those circumstances were,...

Since no-one knows what those circumstances were, how can anyone know what a reasonable person might or might not have done?

Am I missing something?

Happy Christmas all.

Nigel
Forum: Military Aviation
19th Nov 2010, 15:07
Replies: 8,153
Views: 1,318,627
Posted By Thor Nogson

BEagle, Having read the Argyll new report...

BEagle,

Having read the Argyll new report you helpfully posted, I scrolled down and read the comments. I have to say I was somewhat surprised by the last few. If what is written is true, it...
Forum: Rumours & News
17th Nov 2010, 13:53
Replies: 1,964
Views: 1,339,479
Posted By Thor Nogson

To be fair, wasn't that because the ejected parts...

To be fair, wasn't that because the ejected parts ricocheted off the ground and back up the other side, rather than going straight through?

TN
Forum: Military Aviation
14th May 2010, 16:33
Replies: 8,153
Views: 1,318,627
Posted By Thor Nogson

FYI, The Rt Hon Nick Clegg MP also signed EDM...

FYI, The Rt Hon Nick Clegg MP also signed EDM 651, but it appears that our new Defence secretary did not.

TN
Forum: Military Aviation
22nd Apr 2010, 11:50
Replies: 8,153
Views: 1,318,627
Posted By Thor Nogson

Engpil, Your post raises a couple of quite...

Engpil,

Your post raises a couple of quite relevant questions, and merits a few clarifications.

The clarifications first. It's probably a generalisation to say that all software has faults,...
Forum: Military Aviation
18th Feb 2010, 10:02
Replies: 61
Views: 8,673
Posted By Thor Nogson

I don't think that anyone was suggesting they...

I don't think that anyone was suggesting they used 8yr olds. However...

The British Army Uses Videogames as a Recruitment Tool - So does the U.S. Army - Softpedia...
Forum: Military Aviation
18th Jan 2010, 08:56
Replies: 8,153
Views: 1,318,627
Posted By Thor Nogson

JP - Can I ask what you intend by the words "at...

JP - Can I ask what you intend by the words "at least"?

Are you suggesting that my other points, or those of other posters are dishonest?

Or is it that the honesty was the only redeeming...
Forum: Military Aviation
15th Jan 2010, 11:17
Replies: 8,153
Views: 1,318,627
Posted By Thor Nogson

AA - I'd suggest Bast0n is quite the opposite. ...

AA - I'd suggest Bast0n is quite the opposite. This thread, and to a certain degree the campaign as a whole, absolutely require contributors with a contrary viewpoint in order to survive.

Without...
Forum: Military Aviation
14th Jan 2010, 16:44
Replies: 8,153
Views: 1,318,627
Posted By Thor Nogson

The keyword in X767's post is know. You don't...

The keyword in X767's post is know.
You don't know, they don't know, I don't know. :ugh:

You've recently said you are against the verdict, but every time you post it is with a "they flew the...
Forum: Military Aviation
12th Jan 2010, 13:50
Replies: 8,153
Views: 1,318,627
Posted By Thor Nogson

Let's make the hypothetical scenario more akin to...

Let's make the hypothetical scenario more akin to the one under dispute.

Everyone killed, no witnesses - ok.
Let's add a little to that...
No data recordings either present or retrievable.
A...
Forum: Military Aviation
12th Jan 2010, 12:27
Replies: 8,153
Views: 1,318,627
Posted By Thor Nogson

Bast0n, I don't want to drag this out -...

Bast0n,

I don't want to drag this out - we'll probably go around in circles :)

Coming back to a previous question



Flipster suggested the alternative findings would be: Pilot Error,...
Forum: Military Aviation
12th Jan 2010, 10:37
Replies: 8,153
Views: 1,318,627
Posted By Thor Nogson

That doesn't sit well with your That...

That doesn't sit well with your


That sounds like you were suggesting gross negligence to me...

If you don't mind me asking, why did you edit out the "I have always been against the "gross"...
Forum: Military Aviation
12th Jan 2010, 09:21
Replies: 8,153
Views: 1,318,627
Posted By Thor Nogson

Bast0n, Hello again. I was taken aback by...

Bast0n,

Hello again. I was taken aback by your comment that you've always been against the verdict of Gross Negligence - that's not how I remembered your posts at all.

I just had a look back...
Forum: Military Aviation
25th Nov 2009, 12:36
Replies: 87
Views: 19,116
Posted By Thor Nogson

I understand that. With 8 million lines of code,...

I understand that. With 8 million lines of code, there will inevitably be some bugs, but my question is whether it can be certified as airworthy?

Can the MOD just take the manufacturers word for...
Forum: Military Aviation
25th Nov 2009, 11:09
Replies: 87
Views: 19,116
Posted By Thor Nogson

A quick question - without the opportunity to...

A quick question - without the opportunity to examine the source code, would it be possible to confirm airworthiness of the aircraft before entry into service?

TN

p.s. Green Granite :D
Forum: Airlines, Airports & Routes
21st Oct 2009, 10:01
Replies: 3,499
Views: 1,337,097
Posted By Thor Nogson

I think the original agreement was till 2019. ...

I think the original agreement was till 2019.

But, the agreement was between West Sussex County Council and BAA.
Since BAA no longer own the airport, I'd guess the new owner could say it no...
Forum: Military Aviation
20th Jul 2009, 13:29
Replies: 8,153
Views: 1,318,627
Posted By Thor Nogson

IMHO that's way out of order. Chugalug2 has...

IMHO that's way out of order. Chugalug2 has stated repeatedly they believe it to have been a control problem occurring in an unairworthy craft. Quite clear, I'd have thought. Certainly not...
Forum: Military Aviation
18th Jul 2009, 16:12
Replies: 8,153
Views: 1,318,627
Posted By Thor Nogson

bast0n, if it is blindingly obvious, how come...

bast0n, if it is blindingly obvious, how come only a handful of the posters can see it?

You've admitted yourself, many times, that you aren't 100% certain, and that is the whole point.

I agree...
Forum: Military Aviation
17th Jul 2009, 15:02
Replies: 8,153
Views: 1,318,627
Posted By Thor Nogson

But, if the scenario had occurred, then someone...

But, if the scenario had occurred, then someone not on board would have known about it, and it would seem highly likely that those who signed off on the verdict would have known about it too.

The...
Forum: Military Aviation
17th Jul 2009, 09:00
Replies: 8,153
Views: 1,318,627
Posted By Thor Nogson

Caz, Since you've commented on this...

Caz,

Since you've commented on this hypothetical approach, I take it that you consider it a possibility?

TN
Forum: Military Aviation
14th Jul 2009, 09:23
Replies: 8,153
Views: 1,318,627
Posted By Thor Nogson

Two obvious observations here. 1) If there...

Two obvious observations here.

1) If there has been a miscarriage of justice, and/or there was relevant evidence which was either ignored or withheld, that surely cannot be the case.

2) This is...
Forum: Military Aviation
4th Jul 2009, 21:56
Replies: 8,153
Views: 1,318,627
Posted By Thor Nogson

Yes, of course it is the place, but I was talking...

Yes, of course it is the place, but I was talking specifically about this thread.
The main aim of which, as I understand it, was to overturn the original and unsupportable verdict of gross...
Forum: Military Aviation
4th Jul 2009, 18:45
Replies: 8,153
Views: 1,318,627
Posted By Thor Nogson

It wasn't a misquote, it was a selective quote,...

It wasn't a misquote, it was a selective quote, no words were added or taken away. I shouldn't have added the full stop at the end, that was a mistake on my part.

I was trying to suggest that if...
Forum: Military Aviation
4th Jul 2009, 07:22
Replies: 8,153
Views: 1,318,627
Posted By Thor Nogson

Cows, I agree with you, but I think that...

Cows,

I agree with you, but I think that this comment



And this one
Forum: Military Aviation
3rd Jul 2009, 20:24
Replies: 8,153
Views: 1,318,627
Posted By Thor Nogson

And who is trying to score points now? I suspect...

And who is trying to score points now? I suspect the unintelligencia aren't entirely confined to the "some doubt" camp.

I get the impression that SFFP - BOAC - DALEK et al regularly post...
Forum: Military Aviation
3rd Jul 2009, 09:50
Replies: 8,153
Views: 1,318,627
Posted By Thor Nogson

Walter, Let me get this straight. You are...

Walter,

Let me get this straight. You are saying that a covert, and so far undisclosed, sub mission to the Mull would explain all the known information, and the reason they actually hit the Mull...
Forum: Military Aviation
1st Jul 2009, 09:58
Replies: 8,153
Views: 1,318,627
Posted By Thor Nogson

bast0n, So we are agreed it is the most...

bast0n,

So we are agreed it is the most likely cause. But are you sure, with no doubt whatsoever, that it was the cause?

For me, there is enough doubt. The thing I'm most curious about at the...
Forum: Military Aviation
30th Jun 2009, 22:49
Replies: 8,153
Views: 1,318,627
Posted By Thor Nogson

Ok, I can see what you are saying. Having said...

Ok, I can see what you are saying. Having said this, your last few posts have the phrases "think", "believe", "hold up pretty well". They don't seem to me to be the same as "no doubt whatsoever".
...
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