A breath of fresh air at last. One pilots view of CRM

[Centaurus]

but please don't be offended if I correct you." I've used that brief for years and never found a problem as a result.

Of course you have never found a problem as a result. Because, as you said earlier, you are "management"

[Sir Niall Dementia]

Centaurs;

Sadly I have to work with Francis Frogbound and VH of this community, our ops dept dread crewing us together, as we've known each other for years, we're the only managers in this co with licenses, and we have an overwhelming ability to cause chaos wherever we go! According to our ops manager the collective noun for a group of pilot managers is a mayhem.
I feel desperately sorry for a new P2 who gets stuck with a management pilot, and I've always tried to follow the example of the chief pilot of the first airline I ever worked for, make them laugh and they'll start to relax, be as good as you possibly can in the cockpit and they'll respect your abilities as a pilot, as for the rest of it, I'm human like them and if I'm wrong I'd rather hear it from them than end up explaining myself to the police/AAIB/CAA/company/whoever.
What we often forget as we get older/more experienced is that the new guys arrive with new knowledge. The schools now teach a lot of stuff we weren't taught. Some of it we find out from other places, but there is a hell of a lot of freshly imbibed theory, if not much actual hands on time in the young heads next to us. I've always wanted CRM to be a two way transfer of knowledge rather than a group hug session, but I guess I'm possibly on a loser. But I still get a real joy out of sitting on an aircraft jumpseat, or in the back of a sim watching a crew really gel and work together, they may never have worked together before, but suddenly familiarity with SOPs and the environment they are in makes them click and the team work you see is mighty impressive.
I said in an earlier post that as a company we try to get our CC in the sim to watch what goes on, a thorough brief of what they are going to see and a chat with the (often sweaty and tired) crew afterwards gives them a confidence in the pilots that I think very few CC get.

As for being a management pilot, it was that or redundancy at the time, and I've never managed to get out of it,

[Emoclew]

"CRM a transfer of knowledge"

SND,
As a fairly senior Capt, I think that's an excellent summary.
Personally I am always minded of a study of aircraft accidents v pilot rank/experience which showed that after 10,000 hours, the "extra" experience did not make the Capt. any safer.

[Centaurus]

I've always tried to follow the example of the chief pilot of the first airline I ever worked for, make them laugh and they'll start to relax, be as good as you possibly can in the cockpit and they'll respect your abilities as a pilot

I was only joking, really

[Sir Niall Dementia]

Centaurus;

Yeah I know; bad start to the day, sorry for getting serious

[Slasher]

after 10,000 hours, the "extra" experience did not make the Capt. any safer.

Ran my logbook back to the 10000hr point and compared my
level then to now - I'm probably just a little more safer but a
hell of a lot more bloody cautious, due in main from learning
of the major screwups of others in the past few years.

the fact that I'm also management

No one is gonna be crazy enough to give you any backchat if
they value their jobs ND - its all just a big act in front of you
anyway. I was talking as a ordinary line jock who has to face
people every day who will stow their acting talents since I do
not have any egg on my hat (during the rare times I wear it).

There was a time as a 737 examiner the kids would shut up if
they knew what was good for 'em. That was great....but what
pissed me off was the act everyone else bunged on. It wasn't
till I gave up the position that everyone inside - and outside -
the cockpit became real again.

[Slasher]

Some examples I recall WRT above (737)

While holding Examiner's position -
Me - "That gives ah....133kts."
FO - "Captain I think it might be 131 kt but I'll recheck my
calculation to make sure."

After resigning from Examiner's position -
FO: "That's 131 kt Slash, ya dumb sh!t."

While holding.... -
Me - "Jesus I clanged that on!"
FO - "I noted a gust of wind on touchdown captain. It could
happen to anyone."

After resigning... -
FO - Oh did you? Lemme pull the nosewheel out of my @rse
and I'll do the After Crashdown (checklist)!"

While holding... (during training flt) -
Me - "Flare lad....Flare!....FLARE for fuc....FLARE!!!"
150hr cadet - "I apologise for the firm landing sir. Was it due
to that strong 5kt crosswind?"

After resigning... -
Me - "Ahem....I have control bucko."
200hr FO - "Why???? It is MY landing I'M the PF...I'M..."
Me - "Shutup and get your grubby mits off the column."

[john_tullamarine]

Slash, old son .. you encapsulate the facts succinctly .. as always.

[Denti]

after 10,000 hours, the "extra" experience did not make the Capt. any safer.

I just wonder, what about those 10.000 to 15.000 hour FOs? Usual experience for an upgrade here is around that mark somewhere.