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Old 1st Nov 2011, 14:36
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Old 1st Nov 2011, 14:38
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Polish TV is reporting the runway was sprayed down prior to landing.
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Old 1st Nov 2011, 14:43
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My bad, Capt Tadeusz Wrona, been on the 767 for almost 20yrs now.

Hats off to them.
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Old 1st Nov 2011, 14:45
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And judging by the windsock, a tailwind as well !
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Old 1st Nov 2011, 14:46
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Old 1st Nov 2011, 14:47
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can a qualified B767 pilot explain how you can have all 3 gears locked up ?!?
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Old 1st Nov 2011, 14:50
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kudos to PF - landing was well balanced, and touched the tarmac with the rear of the fuselage, just a VERY small bump and slow lowering of the engines to touch the surface. Looked like a very unevenful landing. Excellend job.

kudos to flight crew as well: first people at the rear out within 5 sec from stoping, and 8 sec from the front doors.

congratulations!

and waiting for the info what went wrong!
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Old 1st Nov 2011, 14:53
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Will be interesting to see if he had any gear avail, & chose to go with "none" rather than "some".
In any case, the immaculate landing leading to a safe outcome is what matters, & whatever decisions he has taken will not require any criticism from the office dwellers, during the inevitable post-mortem conducted whilst installed safely behind a desk.
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Old 1st Nov 2011, 14:55
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Thumbs up

Gotta love those low drag approaches! Who knows, they might even be able to use the airplane again.

Let's see; one Iran Air 727 last week, yesterday a Condor 757 with an EO due to a bird strike right after take off and now this. All I can say is that I'm happy I'm on vacation! Way too much hassle and paperwork for me, but hats off to all the crews involved!

By the way, despite all that friction it still took quite a bit more runway to roll out than I was expecting.

I can't wait to know why they had all 3 gears up !!!!!
I agree! One gear stuck: okay. Two gears stuck: all right then. But all three gears stuck/unable to extend...

Thanks everyone for posting the videos!
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Old 1st Nov 2011, 15:06
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They tried everything to get the gear down for over an hour.

Polish Air Force pair of F16 were send up to help them and
confirm, that it is no computer glitch, but effectively no gear down.

They followed him to the final approach to warn him, in case something
unexpected happens, like the gear suddenly coming out just on
one side.

Cpt. Eugeniusz Wrona landed the plane.

Absolutely schoolbook landing and evacuation.

Polish pilots are truly amazing.

Police closed the main highway into Warsaw crossing the extended
line of the runway to prevent further casualties in case of failed
landing.

Controllers turned off the approach lights when aircraft was on short final,
to prevent fire in case they will land short.
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Old 1st Nov 2011, 15:11
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Normal gear retraction and lowering is on the centre hyd system. The ALTN system unlocks the main gear doors and nose wheel uplocks using an electric motor. Isaac Newton should then take control. If this motor were to fail (or its respective CB pop) after a centre hyd failure, then a "no gear" scenario could exist.

Unlikely, but entirely possible.

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Old 1st Nov 2011, 15:14
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Polish President congratulating now the pilots and all services
for the successful landing.

He also congratulated the passengers on staying calm and cooperating
on preparation to landing.

He congratulated the perfect evacuation as weel.


"It was no luck, it was no coincidence, it was following the procedures:.
Polish President, Bronisław Komorowski said.

"The film of the landing will circulate the world to show perfect landing,
and perfect fulfilment of emergency procedures, in all training organozations" he said.
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Old 1st Nov 2011, 15:18
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Originally Posted by Juud View Post
Elderly captain very familiar with his aircraft, according to the journalist.
I think the gentleman may prefer the word "Mature."


Regarding the spraying of the runway. Many moons ago a civilian Comet, IIRC Dan-Air, landed at Manston with its nose-wheel up. We had laid a foam carpet for him starting approx half way down the runway and he was instructed to put his nose down, brake and run it into the foam. He decided to keep the nose up which meant that by the time it had been lowered the main bogies and brakes were saturated with slippery foam. The result was that he ended up in the overshoot, thankfully without casualties.

Do any airfields around the globe still have a foam laying facility?
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Old 1st Nov 2011, 15:21
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Cpt. Wrona is a glider pilot, he perfectly kept the glide slope and AoA.
FO Jerzy Szwarc.

Cpt. still in the cockpit.
No one injured, absolutely no panic.

1h after t/o from Newark crew reported total failure of main hydraulic system.
They tried to "revive" it all the way down, then tried emergency electric
gear lowering.

7 tons fuel at Warsaw arrival, burned 4 tons, landed with 3.

Youngest 767 of the fleet, 13 years old.
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Old 1st Nov 2011, 15:27
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Cpt. Wrona has 20 years experience on 767.

He is a member of Polish National Team in Glider Aerobatics,
from Leszno Aeroclub.
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Old 1st Nov 2011, 15:28
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Bit of high speed tape and she'll be fit for flight again...!

Well done to all the crew - just what you need at the end of a sector from Newark.

1h after t/o from Newark crew reported total failure of main hydraulic system.
Cue long thread on PPRuNe by armchair critics about whether you should fly "all that way" after a hydraulic failure and that only a glider pilot could have landed it!
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Old 1st Nov 2011, 15:33
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Looks like no spoilers were deployed. I guess that would be to prevent too much weight at higher speeds?

No spoilers, brakes, reverse thrust and a slippery layer of foam would lead to quite a large amount of runway being used.

great landing
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Old 1st Nov 2011, 15:55
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Raw video: Polish jumbo jet makes wheels up landing - chicagotribune.com
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Old 1st Nov 2011, 15:58
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Also on the Beeb.

BBC News - Footage shows Boeing 767 emergency landing in Warsaw
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Old 1st Nov 2011, 16:11
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