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Old 10th Nov 2011, 07:47
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They controlled the airplane and kept things under control. It is amazing what a big fat yoke and attitude indicator can do to accomplish that.
I'm not sure if nearly stalling twice and then climb up into a TCAS RA qualifies entirely as "under control" but at least it had a happy ending.
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Old 10th Nov 2011, 12:42
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Originally Posted by bubbers44
They controlled the airplane and kept things under control. It is amazing what a big fat yoke and attitude indicator can do to accomplish that. Who cares if you lose airspeed in a 767. Just get the unreliable airspeed chart out when you find the time.
Sounds more like they almost stalled it at high altitude by pitching way nose up. Then a significant amount of time after their high altitude problems including airspeed were resolved, they nearly stalled at low altitude due to not watching the airspeed.
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Old 10th Nov 2011, 18:30
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Originally Posted by bubbers44
They controlled the airplane and kept things under control.
As did around 30-odd A330/340 crews.

It is amazing what a big fat yoke and attitude indicator can do to accomplish that.
The aforementioned crews had the latter, but not the former. Several yoke equipped aircraft have been lost due to an initial UAS incident, so I therefore don't see how the former is relevant.

Who cares if you lose airspeed in a 767. Just get the unreliable airspeed chart out when you find the time.
As long as the crew are aware of the situation and perform the necessary corrective actions, the type or flight deck layout is irrelevant. Despite some initial problems, it looks like the crew managed to remedy the situation - so props are due.

I'm not entirely sure why this thread was resurrected though...
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Old 11th Nov 2011, 12:24
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I resurrected the thread. Many times there is an incident with many comments and speculation(sort of like in the media) for a while and then for a long period of time there are no more posts on that thread. Eventually, a report comes out with the true story. When I come across the report, I post it. Several times I have had to ask a moderator to open a locked thread to do this.

So the reason the thread was resurrected was to get the final closing comments about the incident and to spread the knowledge of what can happen, so hopefully, it won't happen again.

In other words, it was resurrected for reasons of improving aviation safety.
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Old 11th Nov 2011, 16:27
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Thanks so much punkalouver for doing that.
I had completely missed that event initially, and I would not have seen that excellent report.

I think pprune could have kept it in the Tech log forum at least ...
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Old 20th Nov 2011, 19:25
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Originally Posted by punkalouver
So the reason the thread was resurrected was to get the final closing comments about the incident and to spread the knowledge of what can happen, so hopefully, it won't happen again.

In other words, it was resurrected for reasons of improving aviation safety.
No worries sir, I was just desperate to avoid another A vs B, yoke vs sidestick bunfight.

Sorry about that.
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