British 747 looses all engines
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A book was written on the incident' All four engines have failed' author is Betty Tootell, (from Auckland New Zealand.) a passenger on the flight.
It highlights the surperb effort of Captain Eric Moody, First Officer Roger Greaves, and their crew to re-start the 747's four engines.
The incident is known in this part of the world as the "jarkarta incident'.
It is a facinating read of the 1983 incident.
British airways can certainly take a bow for their crew training-especially
four engines-out drill!
I have a copy of the book( NOT for sale) anyone wanting more info, please PM me. I will try and locate some more copies, or even the author! as I live in the area.
Most passengers have apparently kept in touch.
Hope this helps.
It highlights the surperb effort of Captain Eric Moody, First Officer Roger Greaves, and their crew to re-start the 747's four engines.
The incident is known in this part of the world as the "jarkarta incident'.
It is a facinating read of the 1983 incident.
British airways can certainly take a bow for their crew training-especially
four engines-out drill!
I have a copy of the book( NOT for sale) anyone wanting more info, please PM me. I will try and locate some more copies, or even the author! as I live in the area.
Most passengers have apparently kept in touch.
Hope this helps.
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For many years prior to the incident Eric had been in an icy dispute with BA about his seniority. (He spent some time with BEA before joining BOAC, the airlines merged to form BA.)
I would just have loved to have been in the Office the day news first arrived that a BA aircraft had survived this very near disaster through the skill and heroic action of the flight crew, when the Flight Ops Director said, "Good show! - and who was in command?" .
I would just have loved to have been in the Office the day news first arrived that a BA aircraft had survived this very near disaster through the skill and heroic action of the flight crew, when the Flight Ops Director said, "Good show! - and who was in command?" .
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My favourite quote from Eric Moody, describing the landing, as volcanic ash had scoured the windshields...
"It was like trying to navigate blindfold up a badger's arse"...
I hope I got that right!
Magic stuff...as well as the outstanding skills of Eric, Roger and Barry, the SEO who brought the flying ashtray down in one piece.
"It was like trying to navigate blindfold up a badger's arse"...
I hope I got that right!
Magic stuff...as well as the outstanding skills of Eric, Roger and Barry, the SEO who brought the flying ashtray down in one piece.
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Originally Posted by FOMere2eternity
Oh for God's sake artist, do I have to spell it out?
In 1988 (3 yrs before GW1) I believe that a British Airways 747 (like the one used to get SF into Kuwait in GW1), was overflying Indonesa (well, Indonesia has a military and we sell them Hawks), when they flew through what their radar (military invention) said was cloud, but in actual fact was vulcano dust.
All engines stopped, and I believe that after loosing 20,000 ft (as high as a Tornado can get), they were able to get restarts (Flt Ops Officers).
Aircraft upon arrival at Perth (RAAF base somewhere near there), required all four engines to be changed (regular feature of SA charters)
Does anyone have a copy of the CVR of this incident.
Thanks and regards
Col Tigwell
In 1988 (3 yrs before GW1) I believe that a British Airways 747 (like the one used to get SF into Kuwait in GW1), was overflying Indonesa (well, Indonesia has a military and we sell them Hawks), when they flew through what their radar (military invention) said was cloud, but in actual fact was vulcano dust.
All engines stopped, and I believe that after loosing 20,000 ft (as high as a Tornado can get), they were able to get restarts (Flt Ops Officers).
Aircraft upon arrival at Perth (RAAF base somewhere near there), required all four engines to be changed (regular feature of SA charters)
Does anyone have a copy of the CVR of this incident.
Thanks and regards
Col Tigwell
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Quote "It highlights the surperb effort of Captain Eric Moody, First Officer Roger Greaves, and their crew to re-start the 747's four engines."
What a shame you didn't include the real hero of the incident; AKA the Flight Engineer.
I reckon that if the aircraft had been a 'modern' Airbus, that doesn't allow you to break the rules, the outcome would have been ......................
No; I'm not a flight Engineer, but I was brought up on aircraft with them and I mourn their passing.
What a shame you didn't include the real hero of the incident; AKA the Flight Engineer.
I reckon that if the aircraft had been a 'modern' Airbus, that doesn't allow you to break the rules, the outcome would have been ......................
No; I'm not a flight Engineer, but I was brought up on aircraft with them and I mourn their passing.
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Originally Posted by Matt Vinyl
I reckon that if the aircraft had been a 'modern' Airbus, that doesn't allow you to break the rules, the outcome would have been ......................
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[quote=Matt Vinyl]Quote "It highlights the surperb effort of Captain Eric Moody, First Officer Roger Greaves, and their crew to re-start the 747's four engines."
What a shame you didn't include the real hero of the incident; AKA the Flight Engineer.
For the reference the SFE's name is Barry Townley-Freeman.
Sorry for the thread creep.
What a shame you didn't include the real hero of the incident; AKA the Flight Engineer.
For the reference the SFE's name is Barry Townley-Freeman.
Sorry for the thread creep.
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Originally Posted by Lostinspace
Said aircraft flying cargo with Air Atlanta
Wings and engine are indeed gone.
The Captain actually lived only a few miles at the time from where I do now, hopefully something in the water round these parts!
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Filming docu-drama on BA 009
I am involved in producing a documentary on this incident, and I would love to see if anyone has seen any photos of teh aircraft after it landed. Apparently all paint, or most of it was scraped from the fuselage, adn many of the formard looking windows were made opaque from the ash cloud.
Has anyone actually seen video or still photos of the aircraft after it landed?
Many Thanks,
Dean Perlmutter
Has anyone actually seen video or still photos of the aircraft after it landed?
Many Thanks,
Dean Perlmutter
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Air Disaster: Volume 2 by Macarthur Job has a good description of the incident from both the flight deck and inside the passenger cabin, as well as several photos and technical drawings.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Air-Disaster...e=UTF8&s=books
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Air-Disaster...e=UTF8&s=books
Part of our introductory and recurrent training on the 47-400 et al was a video titled something like "Avoiding volcanic ash". It contained a reconstruction of the incident including an interview with Eric Moody and video, taken after arrival in Jakarta, of the damage incurred. Very sobering!!