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Old 2nd Jun 2006, 10:20
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i am a young type rated pilot starting to fly, and i have some problems with the stress.
I am actually doing me very firsts flights on the line and the stress totally BLOCK me and make me do mistake as during set up and so on...

What can i do to resolve this problem because it is quite diificulte to share it?

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Old 2nd Jun 2006, 10:50
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As you are new to flying, although you have done the training, it is all still very new and alien to you. What you lack at the moment is experience, in time your experience will give you confidence as you encounter and learn to conquer various testing situations. For the time being, just hang on in there, be as professional as you can at this stage, and learn from your experience. It will get better as you continue to develop. Finally, a lot of young pilots will be in the same 'boat' as you, and your feelings and thaughts are quite natural and healthy. Good luck.
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Old 2nd Jun 2006, 11:15
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Steady up a bit! Nervousness is quite normal. The set up takes time and if you make a mistake initially that error can compound itself through the rest of the set up procedure and that gets one really flustered. Do not let yourself be hurried. Take the deep breath, relax and go at your own pace. You will be amazed at how quickly the set up comes along. Before you know it you'll have the aircraft ready for the next sector before you are even on blocks after the last.
It does take time to become a complete nimble fingers. Relax, we have all been there. If you are on a really tight turn around, just ask the Captain to do the set up whilst you do the walk around, explaining that he will probably be quicker at it than you. He might well be for the moment but not for long!
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Old 2nd Jun 2006, 13:09
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thanks for yours answer guys, in fact i do not beleive in mu capacity as pilot, i doubt all the time on my skill ...
I worry all the time to do mistake and the instructorS know that i have problems with stress and told me that i have to deal with because it is a job with stress.
So sometimes i am asking myself if i am able to do this job.
For exemple i know since 1 month that i have to do my recurrent around 15 june and i am already stressed about it, will be able to succed it ...
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Old 2nd Jun 2006, 13:52
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So who took you on? 2 weeks ago, you were looking for a job with no hours on type and now your flying the line. Did the company that took you on not give you an OPC to check your ability and then make you recurrent for another 6 months? That should have been the case and if you can pass an OPC/LPC, why are you so unsure about your ability?
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Old 2nd Jun 2006, 14:24
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i was already in the compagny but not flying .
Now i have started to fly and i have done the type rating with this compagny so they know my level...
I was just asking few weeks ago, if there were some compagny looking for pilots in my case.

Why this question ? ???
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Old 2nd Jun 2006, 19:05
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Just curious how you could go from no flying, looking for a job with no experience and a TR to flying on the line within two weeks when you have courses, lpc's etc etc to complete.

My advice, head down, read the books again and again. Know the drills off the top of your head and just get in there. If it was easy, it would be boring. When it gets easy, it gets boring! Lastly, just stop and think about where you are at the moment. You are flying a jet with limited experience. Not many people have that chance, your a lucky person so enjoy it!!

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Old 19th Jun 2006, 19:49
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Similar experience, single pilot ops to two crew, heavy training schedule... set up, performance calcs, paper work, and a constant questions, what have you forgotten, too slow, speed up etc.. great fun :/
I wrote down everything from "sit down " and "get charts out " , to a detailed 'which switch and why' version of SOPA, in my own ARSOPS ( anal retentive SOPs ) then sat at home chair-flying them. Getting the basic SOPs down leaves you free to enjoy the bliss that is route training! On a serious note your instructors have seen it all before...
Company now have a ground course just on set up and check list use... woulda been handy. Don't know if that's normal in companies recruiting from mainly from GA??
As previously mentioned it'll come right very soon and you'll wonder what the problem was!
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Old 19th Jun 2006, 21:49
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there are 2 very important things that u need at this stage.

1st is SLEEP: make sure u get a good nights sleep before your flight. Its amazing how much easier your job is when you are fully rested. You will find that you will make less mistakes and think faster.

2nd is Continuity: You need to fly on a regular basis. Its no use flying once every 2 weeks for example. Because as a beginner you will find that you will learn many new things on every flight. However if you do not have continuity in your flying you will find that you will soon forget them because you wont have a chance to practice.

1 more thing. P.P.P.P.P.P.P (proper prior preparation prevents a piss poor performance)

Keep at it.
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Old 26th Jun 2006, 19:10
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I know what you're talking about.
Firstly, it's a good sign that you are aware of your faults and your weaknesses. It makes you able to direct your corrections and actually get better. Think of how it would be if you weren't aware the slightest of the fact that you blocked up and just sat back and did nothing about it.

On the other hand, don't let this bring you down. I get the feeling that you're patronizing yourself. Ask these questions: can I fly a plane? can I fly this plane? Dont answer with "no I can't because I mess the calculations up" or some other pisspoor excuse. Yes or No. I think you'll come to the fact that you CAN fly the plane and having it at that basic basic level will help. Don't ever think that you're not worth it, not capable, not fast enough or whatever.

The fact is that a few people along your career has thought you worthy and capable of flying comercial aircraft so if they believe it, why shouldn't you?

So what it comes down to: Dare to think like a winner but don't let it completely overpower your selfcritism, you need it to get better but not so much that it makes you feel bad. You can control this.

Once you start controling this, I think you'll notice that your stresslevels drop down a bit. The other tips given above are also very helpful, like: are you giving yourself enough time? If you're stressed out already at check in, your not giving yourself a chance. Show up an hour early and really get a solid insight into what you're going to do during the day. Do you know your procedures well enough to use them? Read up on your OM-B for callouts and company procedures. Not being sure of what you're doing really adds to the stress level.

I really hope it works out for you, I've had a similar problem throughout my career but I've learnt to combat it with said methods.

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Old 26th Jun 2006, 21:36
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Try to keep in mind what motivated you to aviate.

High Flight
Oh! I have slipped the surly bonds of earth
And danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings;
Sunward I've climbed, and joined the tumbling mirth
Of sun-split clouds - and done a hundred things
You have not dreamed of - wheeled and soared and swung
High in the sunlit silence. Hov'ring there
I've chased the shouting wind along, and flung
My eager craft through footless halls of air.
Up, up the long delirious, burning blue,
I've topped the windswept heights with easy grace
Where never lark, or even eagle flew -
And, while with silent lifting mind I've trod
The high untresspassed sanctity of space,
Put out my hand and touched the face of God.

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Old 15th Aug 2006, 14:32
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that's so right! "low'n slow"

Dare to think like a winner but don't let it completely overpower your selfcritism, you need it to get better but not so much that it makes you feel bad. You can control this.
that's exactly what I would recommend, it works with me. and I have a lack of confidence too!
I envy you...I need a job! good luck!
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