Human Factors training.

[Crossunder]

Hi all!
Doen anyone know of any human factors training companies and/or courses in Europe? I'm looking to gaining some formal education to aid me in my job as assistant ombudsman - my area of responsibility being human performance/ -factors. Anything related to human performance and limitations would be of interest.
And, yes - I can Google for courses, but would like to hear from someone who has some personal experience with this type of training/education...

Cheers.

[aeroconejo]

Try deleted near Chester UK ....have used them a lot and they are very good

deleted ... sorry, but the site really would prefer that commercial organisations make a contribution to the overheads ...

cheers

aero c

[handysnaks]

I'd second that

[Non-PC Plod]

ditto. They do work in the fields of maintenance resource management & healthcare organizations as well as straight CRM for aviation companies

[aeroconejo]

What was the point in editing/partially deleting my previous post? As far as I can see, a fellow professional asked for information on training providers and I replied. I have no connection whatsoever with the organisation that I felt able to recommend, but my employer uses them to provide CRM/Human Factors training. I am a line Captain and a CRM instructor and there was no intent to advertise. Are you going to delete all advice & recommendations in the wannabe forums?.....if so then you may as well pull the shutters down because many people within our fragile industry visit this site for advice and recommendations as to where to go for their training needs.

A question was asked in a professional pilots forum and a professional pilot answered it.

That's all

aero

[CRM Monkey]

Aero,

couldn't agree more old boy, apart from the choice of company, I'd endorse "The Human Factor" anyday!

[john_tullamarine]

aeroconejo,

I don't make the rules .. however, I am required to apply them and one is that there are no links to overtly commercial sites. My application of this is to do the minimum edit practicable to achieve the policy's requirement.

If you have difficulty with that then I invite you to discuss the matter with this site's owners.

Fact of life is that this site costs lots to keep up and running and the owners' view is that commercial sites can make a contribution to this site's operating costs via advertising. Given that others advertise on this site, free plugs create a problem.

[aeroconejo]

Fair enough John. I realise that this site is a commercial venture and that perhaps the folks I recommended were getting a bit of a free ad.

As I stated above I had no intention of giving them a free plug, but I take on board what you said. Will know better in future.

cheers

aero

[john_tullamarine]

Pass, friend ... and we don't get it right all the time .. however, we try to be even handed and fair in what we do.

[Edgar Jessop]

How strange! So if another forum member asks for opinions on courses or training are you saying I am not allowed to say who provided our training and whether I thought the course was any good?

Perhaps I shouldn't then raise a question of my own as to where I can get hold of HF training aids for our company to cascade the message internally? Our trainer used Transport Canada's "Dirty Dozen" video but I haven't been able to find out how to get a copy for ourselves, or if there's a similar training video available.

[paco]

Edgar - I have a copy of that on DVD. You can get the whole package from Transport Canada for $29.95 Can, but it will be on VHS

Phil

[john_tullamarine]

Edgar Jessop,

'tis a fine line we endeavour to tread .. generally, a simple reference to a provider will be fine .. and the folk who might want to find out details can do a search .. but a hyperlink to an overtly commercial site is deemed to be defacto advertising ...

[Skunkie]

I'm instructor of CRM , basically for cabin crew, but the course is mostly concentrated on pilots and accidents/incidents due to lack of CRM, situational awareness and problems of communication both inside cockpit and cockpit/cabin and employees/management.
I found it really interesting and the most complete CRM I've ever attended.
At SAS with retired Captain Gunnar Fahlgren


Skunkie

[Edgar Jessop]

Originally Posted by john_tullamarine

Edgar Jessop,
'tis a fine line we endeavour to tread .. generally, a simple reference to a provider will be fine .. and the folk who might want to find out details can do a search .. but a hyperlink to an overtly commercial site is deemed to be defacto advertising ...

Thanks for the clarification John, and I apppreciate the distinction (if somewhat of a fine one, since given a name it's not hard to Google a link).

So, in answer to Crossunder's question asking for views on good HF courses in Europe it wouldn't be out of order to mention that in our company we sent staff on a course by Lufthansa Technical Training, held locally by them with attendees from several companies in our area, and that we were pleased with the content and results? A valid point for pprune's readers I think, since smaller companies may not have the resource to employ an in-house trainer and either sending employees away for residential courses or bringing in a trainer for a dedicated session for a few people may be undesirably expensive.

[john_tullamarine]

.. an eminently suitable and appropriate response, I would have thought.

regards,

John

[Scandinavian]

Scandinavian Training

Air Greenland, My Travel Airways and a lot of small operators
are using a company from Sandefjord Norway called Scandinavian Team Solutions. They have a very good reputation, so give them a try.

.. I've taken the direct URL out per site preferences .. see above

[Crossunder]

Thanks for all replies! Think I got what I was looking for...