Fumbling for the QRH in an emergency.
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Fumbling for the QRH in an emergency.
A recent Boeing major policy (B737) change regarding the Passenger Evacuation Drill, has deleted the Recall Items and substituted an ordinary read and do checklist instead which requires reference to the QRH, rather than a memory drill.
While the reason for this rather debatable change is not published, it does raise the problem of the inevitable delay in fumbling for the QRH while the boy stood on the burning deck, so to speak.
One operator that I flew for many years ago, had the rather novel idea (I thought) of attaching the Passenger Evacuation checklist on the side of each pilot's flight deck sidewall within immediate easy eye view. If one pilot was incapacitated, the other could read off the checklist on his own side. Surely this is better than fumbling for a QRH and searching for the right page while events may be takiing a turn for the worse outside
Has anyone ever seen this type of checklist display?
While the reason for this rather debatable change is not published, it does raise the problem of the inevitable delay in fumbling for the QRH while the boy stood on the burning deck, so to speak.
One operator that I flew for many years ago, had the rather novel idea (I thought) of attaching the Passenger Evacuation checklist on the side of each pilot's flight deck sidewall within immediate easy eye view. If one pilot was incapacitated, the other could read off the checklist on his own side. Surely this is better than fumbling for a QRH and searching for the right page while events may be takiing a turn for the worse outside
Has anyone ever seen this type of checklist display?
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it's a interesting change,and a good one ,I guess.
The evacuation check is on the last page and the cover is transparent
so,no need to fumble through the QRH.Just turn it over,and look through the last cover.
One other thing: it's not separated on CPT and F/O as before.
Like this:
EVACUATION
park brk...set
spd brk...down
flap...40
press mode...man
valve...open
eng levers...cutoff
advise cabin
advise twr
eng and apu fire swc....override and pull
And something new also:
If an engine or APU fire light is illuminated:
Related fire switch ...rotate and hold
on the former QRH one should have rotated all engine fire warning switches (in oposite direction) ,no matter with fire or not.
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The evacuation check is on the last page and the cover is transparent
so,no need to fumble through the QRH.Just turn it over,and look through the last cover.
One other thing: it's not separated on CPT and F/O as before.
Like this:
EVACUATION
park brk...set
spd brk...down
flap...40
press mode...man
valve...open
eng levers...cutoff
advise cabin
advise twr
eng and apu fire swc....override and pull
And something new also:
If an engine or APU fire light is illuminated:
Related fire switch ...rotate and hold
on the former QRH one should have rotated all engine fire warning switches (in oposite direction) ,no matter with fire or not.
Brgds
Alex
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...and another
...altho darned if I can remember which one (that is, the original operator of the the type, as it had been passed down from them) had the evac drill clearly posted on both pilots instrument panels...seemed reasonable to me.
When the cr@p hits the fan, all the help you need is greatly appreciated....for sure.
I think it was TWA, the airline who could spell INTERNATIONAL long before AA knew the meaning of the word.
Why am I not surprised?
When the cr@p hits the fan, all the help you need is greatly appreciated....for sure.
I think it was TWA, the airline who could spell INTERNATIONAL long before AA knew the meaning of the word.
Why am I not surprised?
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Hi alexban, that QRH change is only just out, and it is not mandatory for companies to change.
It involves quite a few changes within the QRH, not only the front and rear clear covers, but I'm sure you are aware.
Cheers, FD
It involves quite a few changes within the QRH, not only the front and rear clear covers, but I'm sure you are aware.
Cheers, FD
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FD...indeed it involves some more changes than the covers,but don't try to find that out,cause they'll change it soon,in order to incorporate the other B types (747,767.....)..
Just kidding of course...it's not mandatory to change? Hmm,then why use it at all,let's make one of ourselfs..
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Just kidding of course...it's not mandatory to change? Hmm,then why use it at all,let's make one of ourselfs..
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Interesting............
We still haven't received anything..........
Btw, better to spend a couple of seconds more and do it right, than making a mess or forgetting some items (as I've seen more than once in the sim).
Also, even if you do your recall items right, not so easy to check your colleague did his/her correctly.
So it's a welcome change.
Also the fact that discharging all bottles without a fire indication is now considered unnecessary is more realistic, I think.
We still haven't received anything..........
Btw, better to spend a couple of seconds more and do it right, than making a mess or forgetting some items (as I've seen more than once in the sim).
Also, even if you do your recall items right, not so easy to check your colleague did his/her correctly.
So it's a welcome change.
Also the fact that discharging all bottles without a fire indication is now considered unnecessary is more realistic, I think.
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Lets take a quick look at the EVACUATION NNC evolution in our Airline.
Formerly, the Captain and FO had individual recalls to complete once the Captain had decided an evacuation was necessary and called for the Passenger Evacuation recalls. At the completion of the recalls the Captain called for the Passenger Evacuation NNC, which the FO dutifully read from the QRH. Then the pilots joined the passengers and cabin crew outside in the darkness.
With the new EVACUATION NNC, once the Captain has made the decision to evacuate he/she calls for the Evacuation checklist which is read by the FO and actioned by the Captain as his/her area of responsibility. The Evacuation NNC is on the back cover of the QRH hence very easy to extract and read. Once the checklist is read and actioned the pilots join the passengers outside in the darkness.
Having used both methods in the simulator recently, the new method does flow well and probably takes LESS time to action.
Do not fear the unknown, we hope changes have been made by Boeing for good reason. It appears to make sense once you have tryed it a few times.
Formerly, the Captain and FO had individual recalls to complete once the Captain had decided an evacuation was necessary and called for the Passenger Evacuation recalls. At the completion of the recalls the Captain called for the Passenger Evacuation NNC, which the FO dutifully read from the QRH. Then the pilots joined the passengers and cabin crew outside in the darkness.
With the new EVACUATION NNC, once the Captain has made the decision to evacuate he/she calls for the Evacuation checklist which is read by the FO and actioned by the Captain as his/her area of responsibility. The Evacuation NNC is on the back cover of the QRH hence very easy to extract and read. Once the checklist is read and actioned the pilots join the passengers outside in the darkness.
Having used both methods in the simulator recently, the new method does flow well and probably takes LESS time to action.
Do not fear the unknown, we hope changes have been made by Boeing for good reason. It appears to make sense once you have tryed it a few times.
