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C1300. Thanks for confirming the rumour. Can you advise me the name of the organisation?
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It would warm my heart to see the Dash 8-200 come back into production. It was one of the nicest aeroplanes I have flown and beautifully balanced. If they included some of the STC upgrades from Fields as have companies like Air Greenland it would be even better than the original.
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Deutsche Aircraft is developing a new version of the Dornier 328 turboprop, the slightly stretched D328eco with gravel gear. This might fit your bill?
https://www.deutscheaircraft.com/products/d328eco |
DHC reigniting another line? Good grief - they've hardly enough manpower to continue with their current load. Place is bereft of folk.
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Bring back the Pan Am Clipper?
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Dash-8 200 would be a waste of tooling, a 300 restart would be more likely to attract enough customers. The Dash-8 design is too big/heavy for an economical 30-40 seat airliner vs its competition, bump to its 50-70 seat market and its a much better fit. Very unlikely a 30-40 seat dash would get the 100-200 orders to make a restart viable, especially with economical modern opposition in the market like the Dornier 328 ECO around the corner in the 30-40 seat range.
Bring back the Pan Am Clipper? |
Originally Posted by 43Inches
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Dash-8 200 would be a waste of tooling, a 300 restart would be more likely to attract enough customers. The Dash-8 design is too big/heavy for an economical 30-40 seat airliner vs its competition, bump to its 50-70 seat market and its a much better fit. Very unlikely a 30-40 seat dash would get the 100-200 orders to make a restart viable, especially with economical modern opposition in the market like the Dornier 328 ECO around the corner in the 30-40 seat range.
Get some of those jet powered Russian flying ships. Lun class, Ekranoplan, if on a budget, the recently designed A-050 Ekranoplan might be more economical. |
Originally Posted by artee
(Post 11737750)
And how well does the Ekranoplan work in rough seas?
PS I was joking about the Ekranoplans, there's no chance anyone outside the old communist regimes would touch the things. Although even less chance of a Sunderland or Clipper coming back to do the run. |
Originally Posted by Less Hair
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Deutsche Aircraft is developing a new version of the Dornier 328 turboprop, the slightly stretched D328eco with gravel gear. This might fit your bill?
https://www.deutscheaircraft.com/products/d328eco Looking at the payload range, the fuel tank does seem to have a bit more capacity, which seems to be a limiting factor for the ATR. 760nm should be doable with ~35 pax. https://www.d328.eco/product-features |
No one wants to fly 200nm! Stuff the airport. You can get in a car or train and get there easier and quicker!
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ATR42 600S
Rumours say that ATR 42 600S didn't pass the tests and is kind of history now...
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Originally Posted by Capt Fathom
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No one wants to fly 200nm! Stuff the airport. You can get in a car or train and get there easier and quicker!
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How about a Chinook? Boeing 234LR has sufficient range assuming a helicopter has no need to be able to divert back to its point of departure.. Must admit I am surprised that an LR version of anything stops at 540 miles.
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How about a civilian version of the CN-235? At first glance the specs seem broadly similar:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CASA/I...cations_(CN235) |
Originally Posted by AnotherFSO
(Post 11738143)
How about a civilian version of the CN-235? At first glance the specs seem broadly similar:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CASA/I...cations_(CN235) What a POS - perhaps the only time I've been truly scared on a commercial flight. |
Originally Posted by tdracer
(Post 11738168)
… perhaps the only time I've been truly scared on a commercial flight.
I used to live in Jakarta and flew on Garuda many times. I was never truly scared, only mildly apprehensive on occasion. However I was in Bali, when a DC-9 overran the 10,000’ runway and ended up in the mangrove swamp beside the road to Nusa Dua! |
Originally Posted by Capt Fathom
(Post 11737852)
No one wants to fly 200nm! Stuff the airport. You can get in a car or train and get there easier and quicker!
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Tamarack are investigating their winglets on the Q400.
If we are talking of new engines for a -300, could it be turned into a 340Kt baby 400? https://www.flyingmag.com/tamarack-m...-with-skyalps/ |
I don’t understand why they can’t just keep operating the Dash 8 200? Find the lowest time lowest cycle one out there and buy it as a dedicated airplane for this route. This is massively cheaper than extending the runway.
Heck look at the Basler Turbine DC3. 80 year old airframe and still going strong and more than capable on the existing runway |
Originally Posted by Big Pistons Forever
(Post 11738647)
I don’t understand why they can’t just keep operating the Dash 8 200? Find the lowest time lowest cycle one out there and buy it as a dedicated airplane for this route. This is massively cheaper than extending the runway.
Heck look at the Basler Turbine DC3. 80 year old airframe and still going strong and more than capable on the existing runway The idea of stocking up on -200s isn’t a bad stop gap measure (if they’re not doing that already ) but it too will have a finite end time, hence this thread. The TCDS shows -200 and -300 have an underlying certification basis of 1965 - almost 60 years old. The -400 is 1995. |
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