Haatschi,

Spraymarks around dings would have been put there by NTSB presumably, to distinguish them from others. The punctures around the cockpit would certainly have been from rescue boats, particularly those with pusher frames with exposed lower steel (upper parts being protected by rubber).

Not easy to keep a boat in tight position without doing some damage. Even less so when the wind wants to send you in a different direction in relation to the aircraft, and you're worried about propwash or the prop itself chopping swimmers up.

The NTSB will get this all sorted out in due time. If they can figure out if a little light bulb was on or off at the time the aircraft made a smoking hole in the ground, this will be a piece of cake for them.

That NY magazine article was excellent and touching and explained the situation nicely---a few minor 'points' could use firming, but then no one would understand:}

I guess a 'journo' got it right:ooh:

I found this person's comments very nice

3rd Update Advisory From Ntsb
 

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NTSB ADVISORY
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National Transportation Safety Board
Washington, DC 20594
February 4, 2009
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THIRD UPDATE ON INVESTIGATION INTO DITCHING OF US AIRWAYS
JETLINER INTO HUDSON RIVER
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The following is an update on the National Transportation
Safety Board's investigation of US Airways flight 1549, which
ditched into the Hudson River on January 15, 2009.
The left (#1) engine, which was recovered from the Hudson
River on January 23 and subsequently shipped to the
manufacturer in Cincinnati where the NTSB is directing a
teardown, was found to contain bird remains. The organic
material found in the right (#2) engine has also been
confirmed to be bird remains. The material from both engines
has been sent to the Smithsonian Institution in Washington
where the particular bird species will be identified.
As part of its investigation into this accident, the NTSB
investigated an engine surge event that occurred in the right
(#2) engine during a flight on January 13, two days prior to
the accident. The engine recovered from the surge and the
remainder of the flight was completed uneventfully. The NTSB
determined that the surge was due to a faulty temperature
sensor, which was replaced by maintenance personal following
approved procedures. After the engine was examined with a
boroscope and found to be undamaged and in good working
order, the aircraft was returned to service.
On December 31, 2008, the Federal Aviation Administration
(FAA) issued an Airworthiness Directive (AD) covering all
CFM56-5B series turbofan engines, the same type that was on
the accident aircraft. After examining the engine maintenance
records and interviewing relevant personnel, the NTSB
determined that all of the requirements of the AD were
complied with prior to the accident flight.
During the accident flight, the flight data recorder revealed
no anomalies or malfunctions in either engine up to the point
where the captain reported a bird strike, after which there
was an uncommanded loss of thrust in both engines.
Last week the aircraft was moved from the barge where it had
been docked in Jersey City, NJ, to a secure salvage yard in
Kearny, NJ, where it will remain throughout the NTSB
investigation, which is expected to last 12-18 months.
Photo of feather found in the left (#1) engine:
http://www.ntsb.gov/Pressrel/2009/USAIR_1549_Bird_Feather.JPG
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NTSB Media Contact: Peter Knudson
(202) 314-6100
[email protected]

Captions on NTSB Photo
 

Suspect more material to be found in the compressor stages.

"maintenance personal"??
toady the NTSB, tomorow the wurld!

Hudson River Audio
 

Sky News are running the ATC audio tape of the Hudson River accident....amazed at how relaxed the pilot sounds as he says "we may end up in the Hudson"....

Gotta feel sorry for the Controller as he realises he's lost one...

The audio will be here in maximum 30 min, I reckon!

The 'expert', what a pleb :ugh:

The FAA have just published the audio files

link to their page below
FAA Releases USAir 1549 Air Traffic Control Tapes - ATC Network - News Item

On the BBC News homepage now. (BBC NEWS | World | Americas | Hudson jet communications released)

Hopefully the CVR will be made public too soon!

Have to agree about the 'rent an expert' on Sky. Time to go away and enjoy your pension Mr Moody - you are an embarrassment ! BBC transport correspondent - not a retired pilot - far more professional in his analysis.

US Airways 1549 audio
 

4-min audio clip on www.flightglobal.com

I listened just once. Very professional on both sides inclusive of assisting other pilot, whatever future disectors will say, especially given that the controller had no full knowledge of what was to unfold.

LONGER 7min chunk of audio
 

exemplary
 

As SLF it makes me feel reassured to know how professionally Pilots and ATC deal with emergencies such as this. the careful error free approach is indicative of exemplary training. I admire the way the ATC calmly continues to offer landing solutions to the pilot of A320

In this recording do we hear the departure controller handing over as he is relieved from his post because of the situation?

Sounds like the same voice to me. As far as I know the controller does not hand over unless they have a deal.

What I do hear though is the controller coordinating with other controllers at other facilities on land lines.

Audio
 

First of all let me say that I think the pilots did a wonderful job in keeping everybody alive and they should rightfully be praised for their efforts.

I do however, have an observation (and I am aware it is easy to be critical when not faced with their situation) and would appreciate your thoughts.

I have only listened to the short clip available on the sky news site, but from what I have heard the pilot doesn't call a mayday or let the controller know that he is declaring an emergency and requires priority, I know he says he's hit birds and has lost thrust, but no emergency MAYDAY call.

Also near the end end there is a call of 'we're going in the hudson' which the controller doesn't pick up on, might a DITCHING, DITCHING call been better to leave the controller in no doubt.

Again, I do not want this to seam as if I am being critical to the pilots as I have said the fact that everbody got out speaks for it's self, I mearly wish to gain your views.