Unless selecting gear down affects landing configuration such as flaps or throttle response, I'd be a lot more concerned about the underwing engine pods than the wheels - this one must be award winning material.

Remember what happened to the relatively clean, engines internal Nimrod R1 which ditched a while ago ? Broke in half, though I think everyone got out, and a Nimrod pilot I know reckoned that was a miracle !

Type of geese
 

It was asked way back (about page 14) what type of geese they were. I don't know exactly what type they were, but can categorically state that they weren't Grumman Geese! :)

Awesome driving
 

Congrats to all the crew on board. :D As a frequent flyer I want to thank all crews for the magnificient job you do. It's only at times like these that we appreciate what you folks face each time you check-in for a flight. Hopefully lessons learned will be implemented and something can be done to mininise bird strikes. :ok:

Great job all round, it appears the cabin crew held the last vital link to a safe outcome by making sure the correct doors were opened and not allowing the water in. :D

I wonder how many pax today decided to take serious look at the safety card & listen to the briefing today for a change?

Type of Geese
 

Both unlucky & major nuisance variety ?

Major efforts are already made to keep birds away, ranging from 'bird vans' with loudspeakers & a variety of taped bird of prey sounds ( feathered type, not Klingon ) to shotguns.

Maybe something fancy & ultrasonic can be arranged, but knowing sod's law it would probably knobble fly-by-wire sooner than fly-by-evolution !

Brilliant job, can't wait to find out what flap he used and AoA (or pitch attitude) for touchdown, just to add to my databank! Would FBW have helped keep stability in this situation? Would it have been fully FBW on Standby power or APU GEN? I only ask as I heard a VA340 narrowly missed the sea in Hong Kong during a windshear GA and the airline attributed a lot of the recovery to the FBW getting max lift off the wings; also the Habsheim crash mentioned the FBW flying corrections throughout the crash! Flown 73's for nearly 20 years so could be talking crap!! Any offers?

PS I would have bought a Lotto ticket that day if I were the crew.

I think we should rename this model the Airboat 320

That captain is going to pick up every aviation award in the book and deservedly so! Fantastic airmanship! We will be reviewing this in recurrent ground school for years to come.
To bad the poor bugger had his pension stolen by greedy management...

He won't need the pension from his greedy SOB execs.

Motivational speeches, book, and movie.:ok:

The man deserves all the rewards. In sense he is a true preserver of life... just like Al Haynes.:ok::D

Canada Goose
 

Branta canadensis

The most familiar and widespread goose in North America, the Canada Goose can be found in all kinds of water all across the continent, from the tundra to the Gulf Coast. Some populations have become resident in urban areas, and are now coming into conflict with people.

• Size: 76-110 cm (30-43 in)
• Wingspan: 127-170 cm (50-67 in)
• Weight: 3000-9000 g (105.9-317.7 ounces)

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ca...ped_and_NR.jpg

This kid did his part.

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ARE YOU DOING YOURS?

The powers that be keep booting my posts from this thread. I guess they didn't like my TIC comments. (Sorry, but after it became clear that there was no loss of life, I do like to make people laugh. Obviously, that is a crime in this "professional" forum.)

I will never be anything more than a weekend pilot, but I am a frequent passenger on many carriers. This year's assignments will take me to Alaska, Vietnam, Thailand, and Washington, D.C.

No doubt I have been sitting behind many of the pilots who have replied to this forum and will continue to do so.

If your so-very-serious input here will embolden your professionalism...more power to you. I am not offended by the moderator's propensity to boot my comments.

I will just sit by and watch while accumulating those air miles....on and off the ground, so to speak.

Great Job!
 

This is really a great piece of airmanship work and although cabin crew deserve a word of gratitude (their work was also so important to evacuate all passengers alive!) I must tell you that, I am fascinated by the great job, done on the cockpit.
Yesterday I went to bed still frilled by the outcome of that accident and I have tried to make the exercise of positioning myself in the seat of that captain...it wasn't easy, I must concede. Those who are not pilots and are not familiar with flying a powerless A320 have no idea of the complexity of handling that "glider" (together with the completion of check-lists and the handling of the situation with the chief purser, ATC and Pax.). In the flight Simulator, at Green Dot Speed, one gets a rate of descent of approximately 1800/2200' per minute and the the simple fact of trying to "recover" about five Knots, for instance, will result in the increase of that rate to 2500/2800' sometimes 3000' per minute! Further, as far as I remember, one would be receiving partial hydraulic power trough windmilling and the RAT (minimum speed for power 140Kts) so Slats/Flaps selection would have to be done with parsimony, (at the right altitude, to allow for profile upsets) would come slowly and would influence not only the profile itself, but the Flight Controls behavior also...
Flight Simulators seem to be not prepared for the training of ditching maneuvers, therefore we usually train double engine failures (sometimes with ditching preparation) and subsequent landing on a field witch require planning for touching down on the first segment of the runway. In the present Hudson River case, the "runway" was long, but time was short. No time for mistakes, no second chance for a perfect landing.
They have done well. More than that, they have restored faith on our profession!
Congratulations on a Job Well Done.

Fly Safe
Água d'Alte

Only a few options for taking care of this character and other Wildfowl.

1. Habitat Management, stop the lovies building ponds & lakes within you Bird Circle, also at your airport to keep planners happy.

2. Avoid building airports near lakes rivers and the sea. (recent new London airport proposal :ugh:

3. Biological control of the population removing eggs treating eggs with chemicals, etc.

4. Plot movement of flocks, roosting sites, warn aircraft via BIRDTAM / NOTAM.

5. If encountered on your airfield and they won't move Shoot the :mad: things.

It has nothing to do with your HoT, or any other HoT for that matter. No aviaition authority accounts for multiple failures otherwise there would be no ETOPs!

They work on statistical probability and the likelihood of a multiple failure and accept that the probability is so low that multiples are discounted.

The fact that 2 occur in 2 months does not necessarily mean that another will happen, or not happen, in N years.

Maybe they will re - examine the probabilities though and suddenly 3 and 4 jets will become popular as ETOPs restrictions build up.

Well :mad: me, it’s been proved it can be done.
I take my hat off to the crew, VERY well done!!!!! I hope you enjoy the beers tonight.
My congratulations goes to all the crew, Captain, First Officer & Cabin crew. NOT just the Captain as the media have done. It was a great team effort!!
:D:D:D:D:D

WELL DONE:ok:

NTSB Briefing at 4PM EST
 

From NTSB home page:

The National Transportation Safety Board will hold a press briefing today at 4:00 p.m., (EST) on its investigation into the crash of a US Airways Airbus A-320 into the Hudson River in New York City. NTSB Member Kitty Higgins will conduct the briefing.

That would be 9:00PM UTC time, if I'm not completely wrong.

Interesting interviews + Videos
 

Some good passenger interviews to be found on CNN .This one was recorded within 20 minutes of incident .

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pretty good description of landing by witness

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How to survive a crash ?

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I thought that is was just the captain and the captain alone that saved the day? To be honest the captain is going to take control as he has the most experience. He should get all the credit IMHO.

Glad it wasn't at night or onto a busier river.

L Met

kudos to everyone who made it possible to talk cheerfully about an accident :cool:

A small idea for Airbus' new promotional campaign:
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