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Turkey Brain 26th Jul 2023 01:42


Originally Posted by CharlesShi (Post 11464697)
Didn't read all the posts carefully.
But has everyone reached this consensus—this is a man-made suicide accident, and it was deliberately covered up by the authorities?
P.s. Will such views get my account blocked here?:哎哟:



What will get your account moderated is admitting to not reading the Thread before posting.

Please do so before joining in a lengthy and year old discussion 🤔

Senior Pilot


Boeing stated the plane flew as commanded

No airworthiness directives for the 737 relating to this crash
No changes to pilots training after this 737 crash
No comments on bad weather etc

The authorities continue to investigate as they say “ it’s complicated “

looking at data posted online.

The plane is commanded to roll left, it rolls through the inverted and enters cloud very quickly, making recovery a bit more tricky, as you have to use instruments and ignore your senses. The plane loses height and the speed builds up all the time it is still rolling. The plane appears to be trimmed for positive g flight, going faster and faster pulling more and more g,. It continues to roll and achieves maybe 45 degrees down and speeds near Mach 1. Lower down in the atmosphere and after having flown well past it’s max structural speeds the plane seems to regain some control in roll and gains a little height. However the speed bleeds away and the nose of the plane drops.

Note, Boeing say the plane flew as commanded. ( or a very similar turn of phrase ) so with no airworthiness directives about autopliots etc.

It seems the pilots or a pilot commander a roll, that led them to enter cloud in a spiral dice, either intentionally or inadvertently.

Either way it appears a pilot or the pilots tried their best to recover from the situation, however the plane was so damaged from the high speed and high g dive that recovery was not possible. ( A combination of missing/ broken parts of the airframe and plastic deformation of the airframe.)

Totally tragic.

a possible learning point;

maybe demoting your most senior Captain and putting him in the right hand seat next to a new up and coming Captain was not an ideal crew composition for harmony.


megan 26th Jul 2023 03:48


So Megan, was your airborne incident investigated and your reaction to it professionally assessed by aviation medicos
No

Have to wonder was it the right thing going back for your final 8 years
Absolutely yes, getting back on the horse and all that, always enjoyed the hell out of the job, right to the final day. Getting over PTSD in my case was no different to getting over a broken leg, you just need expert attention.

Oemlegoem 21st Mar 2024 01:24

Today is the 2 year anniversary of the crash. Is there any further or final report from the Chinese authorities?

ETOPS 22nd Mar 2024 15:30

Yes - see this thread…

https://www.pprune.org/accidents-clo...ch-2022-a.html

Lonewolf_50 23rd Mar 2024 00:19


Originally Posted by Turkey Brain (Post 11473930)
Boeing stated the plane flew as commanded

No airworthiness directives for the 737 relating to this crash
No changes to pilots training after this 737 crash
No comments on bad weather etc

The authorities continue to investigate as they say “ it’s complicated “

"The Authorities" are the Chinese government.
You can assume that they are not being truthful, as they wish to avoid loss of face.
Welcome to the real world.

Fly3 23rd Mar 2024 02:36

A320 Glider
That is poor reasoning. All it might have needed, if indeed it was a pressurisation failure, is for the aircraft to perhaps hit a bit of turbulence, or for the defective part just reached its limit and give out, and that could happen anywhere in flight.


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