Ryanair downsizing
 

Not sure why he is blaming the MAX delivery delays whilst downsizing (including cutting aircraft numbers) for economic reasons. It seems to be a blessing in disguise.

His lips were moving.

He makes it very clear who will pay the bill .......

If Ryanair has a cold the rest of the industry is bound for tuberculosis. Wonder who will be next?

Hm..
Aren't the unions threatening with some form of industrial action in a few weeks?
Then I find this message more than a "coincidence"
Perhaps a threat in disguise of what will be the outcome if "costs" are increased due to new agreements and "loss of profits" in case of industrial actions.
Then when they are axing bases and employees they have a very "good" scapegoat, simply blame the unions.
Just some random speculations.

The Max delivery issues affect the plan for need of both pilots and crew combining with a loss of interest by the public in local flying. Yes, one can separate them, but some will lose their job for one or the other reason.

Same old drivel as winter season approaches just <insert excuse here> and squeeze your suppliers/staff harder.

I love the part where he says that some redundancies might have to be made because hardly any pilots have left voluntarily..Of how I laughed!

Id imagine contractors are fine as they are free if they don't fly apart from recurrent training. This to me looks like a good way to lose Ryanair employees that are expensive and also weaken the union.

I did hear there are lots of quite rosters now and guys offered unpaid leave instead of standbys. Again id assume this is just Ryanair direct employment. Be interesting to hear how busy contractors are.

And they only made £262million in the last quarter.... oh boo hoo. How ever will they pay the light bill with a quarter of a billion in 3 months.

Poor shareholders....;)

Relax!
 

A fair warning , I must say.
But a bit of a worst case thing he is projecting. And I can not blame him with the nutters in power in the UK.
I must say he is not correct with regards to no one quitting.
I personally know several,and what is more SAS are doing the biggest hiring , post 9/11. KLM and just about every other larger European operator is hiring due to large pension groups the next 6 to 9 months.
The only exception being Norwegian, for obvious reasons.
Most Captains I talk to are flying close to maximum, contractors or RYR.
So here is a news flash from an observer: RYR does NOT have to many Pilots, just to many Cadets.
The fly them until 499hrs then mostly stby as at 500hrs they cost more.
Welcome to the 0 hrs Contract Club!
Regards
Cpt B

Bingo!
Why do You think PB left!

"our partners, the unions"....

He really is a comedian....

I'm sure the redundancies will be from bases that have pi$$ed him off, coincidence of course

Should I be concerned as someone looking to begin flight school soon?

I think they might have got Diane Abbott to help with their accounts

If you have a European passport then I'd start, should be a good time. If you only have a British passport then forget about it. Brexit combined with sympathy to green movement views mean that the British industry will be in decline.

No need to be racist

Think about your own tax situation. Everybody tries to minimise the tax which they pay, as long as it's done legally then it's totally acceptable.

The tax on income is in parity with other European countries.
What seemed (to me) to set Ireland apart from other places is the low cost of labour (employer's social charges). Also corporate tax rate is low.

Someone else can fill in more details.

Around 900 redundancies possible is what I hear.

Austrian media is reporting on pressure being exerted on Ryanairs Laudamotion subsidiary. If the labour council will not agree on various cost cutting measures, the 4 planned additional A320 might be cancelled and replaced by 4 wetleased FR 737s; 30 jobs are said to be at risk.

If, however, such an agreement was to be reached, Laudamotion "might reconsider" terminating those 30 employees. Sounds tempting...

"but remember that ryanair has the lowest costs of any airline in Europe"

well, and by far the lowest revenue... Sound like scaremongering to prevent actions and to get away with base closures and transfers. Off course the MAX issues are still real and with a smaller fleet the demand for pilots will be lower. This should only be a shorter term problem though.

Me too.
I'm sure it wasn't that long ago that RYR cut a load of flights due to lack of pilots and other staff (or so MOL said at the time) yet now they have so many extra staff that they do not need.......

Quick google says it's 12.5%. As opposed to 19% in the UK and 21% in the USA (down from 35% pre-Trump!).

Thats correct but I doubt if Ryanair will be paying too much Corporation Tax.
As the company is structured with Ryanair holdings PLC at the top looking after Ryanair Ireland, Ryanair UK, Ryanair Sun (based in Poland) and Laudamotion there would be many perfectly legal loopholes to avoid paying tax. Remember Starbucks a couple of years ago ?

I have a friend of mine who's a contact aircraft engineer here in Belgium, last year his accountant mentioned to him that he had paid more tax than Interbrew, (the owners of Stella Artois etc.)

Regardless of where a company is based, the companies at the top pay next to nothing, the people at the bottom pay nothing so that leaves the guys and girls in the middle to pay everything , I would assume that would be most of us here !

This news is very interesting in light of the RYR air crew battling RYR in The Netherlands (see https://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/...strike-14.html). In that case, RYR argued that the base changes were needed out of economic necessity. Initially, RYR lost that case as they failed to provide compelling evidence that there was indeed an economic necessity, and the court ruled that the base changes were more likely to be an act of revenge to retaliate against striking crew.

This news may provide the arguments needed by RYR to convince the appeals court that indeed, they were (and are) facing the economic misery they said they were. That means that the initial judgement could be set aside.

ph-sbe:

It doesn't work that way in Dutch civil law. The appeals judge will and must decide based on the facts and circumstances at the time of the disputed base closure and redundancies, as brought forward by the conflicting parties. RYR already cited the base as 'underperforming' and other economic difficulties and this argument was thrown out by the judge. The MAX grounding popped up after the start of conflict and can not serve as an argument in any appeal.