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Old 30th Jul 2019, 13:13
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Old 30th Jul 2019, 13:28
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Not sure why he is blaming the MAX delivery delays whilst downsizing (including cutting aircraft numbers) for economic reasons. It seems to be a blessing in disguise.
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Old 30th Jul 2019, 13:31
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What about Brexit ?
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Old 30th Jul 2019, 13:33
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His lips were moving.
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Old 30th Jul 2019, 13:46
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He makes it very clear who will pay the bill .......
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Old 30th Jul 2019, 14:50
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If Ryanair has a cold the rest of the industry is bound for tuberculosis. Wonder who will be next?
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Old 30th Jul 2019, 15:32
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Hm..
Aren't the unions threatening with some form of industrial action in a few weeks?
Then I find this message more than a "coincidence"
Perhaps a threat in disguise of what will be the outcome if "costs" are increased due to new agreements and "loss of profits" in case of industrial actions.
Then when they are axing bases and employees they have a very "good" scapegoat, simply blame the unions.
Just some random speculations.
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Old 30th Jul 2019, 15:45
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Originally Posted by procede View Post
Not sure why he is blaming the MAX delivery delays whilst downsizing (including cutting aircraft numbers) for economic reasons. It seems to be a blessing in disguise.
The Max delivery issues affect the plan for need of both pilots and crew combining with a loss of interest by the public in local flying. Yes, one can separate them, but some will lose their job for one or the other reason.
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Old 30th Jul 2019, 16:20
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Typical MOL whining before potential industrial actions. Nothing to see here, move on.
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Old 30th Jul 2019, 16:22
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Same old drivel as winter season approaches just <insert excuse here> and squeeze your suppliers/staff harder.
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Old 30th Jul 2019, 18:39
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I love the part where he says that some redundancies might have to be made because hardly any pilots have left voluntarily..Of how I laughed!
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Old 30th Jul 2019, 18:57
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What is so funny about it? The company’s profit has decreased again and the ones working for Ryanair might lose their job!! I dont understand the joke. Aviation is facing difficult times again.
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Old 30th Jul 2019, 19:25
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Pilots and cabin crew alike "loose their job" every year to the extent necessary to match the winter program?
This was bound to happen, sooner or later. Nothing grows forever.

I presume seniority has not been properly implemented? I'd be worried if I was a contractor or a new hire.

Unless they're bluffing, but I am not so sure this time...
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Old 30th Jul 2019, 19:32
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Is it the people who work for RYR that are in the dangerzone or the contractors that are “self employed”.

This MOL is a greedy mofo who does not respect the men and women that keep the airplanes in the air.
Where I work we hired plenty of RYR pilots over the last 12 months so there are definately people leaving.
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Old 30th Jul 2019, 19:46
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Id imagine contractors are fine as they are free if they don't fly apart from recurrent training. This to me looks like a good way to lose Ryanair employees that are expensive and also weaken the union.

I did hear there are lots of quite rosters now and guys offered unpaid leave instead of standbys. Again id assume this is just Ryanair direct employment. Be interesting to hear how busy contractors are.

And they only made £262million in the last quarter.... oh boo hoo. How ever will they pay the light bill with a quarter of a billion in 3 months.
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Old 30th Jul 2019, 19:50
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Originally Posted by zerotohero View Post
Id imagine contractors are fine as they are free if they don't fly apart from recurrent training. This to me looks like a good way to lose Ryanair employees that are expensive and also weaken the union.
If this is really the case I would strongly recommend to take out legal insurance that covers employment related issues. As long as there are contractors no direct employed pilot should loose his or her job!

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Old 30th Jul 2019, 20:30
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Poor shareholders....
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Old 30th Jul 2019, 20:52
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Relax!

A fair warning , I must say.
But a bit of a worst case thing he is projecting. And I can not blame him with the nutters in power in the UK.
I must say he is not correct with regards to no one quitting.
I personally know several,and what is more SAS are doing the biggest hiring , post 9/11. KLM and just about every other larger European operator is hiring due to large pension groups the next 6 to 9 months.
The only exception being Norwegian, for obvious reasons.
Most Captains I talk to are flying close to maximum, contractors or RYR.
So here is a news flash from an observer: RYR does NOT have to many Pilots, just to many Cadets.
The fly them until 499hrs then mostly stby as at 500hrs they cost more.
Welcome to the 0 hrs Contract Club!
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Old 30th Jul 2019, 21:17
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Bingo!
Why do You think PB left!
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Old 30th Jul 2019, 21:46
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"our partners, the unions"....

He really is a comedian....
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