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DutchExpat 30th Jul 2019 12:13

Ryanair downsizing
 

procede 30th Jul 2019 12:28

Not sure why he is blaming the MAX delivery delays whilst downsizing (including cutting aircraft numbers) for economic reasons. It seems to be a blessing in disguise.

atakacs 30th Jul 2019 12:31

What about Brexit ?

Vendee 30th Jul 2019 12:33

His lips were moving.

gearlever 30th Jul 2019 12:46

He makes it very clear who will pay the bill .......

Less Hair 30th Jul 2019 13:50

If Ryanair has a cold the rest of the industry is bound for tuberculosis. Wonder who will be next?

dcoded 30th Jul 2019 14:32

Hm..
Aren't the unions threatening with some form of industrial action in a few weeks?
Then I find this message more than a "coincidence"
Perhaps a threat in disguise of what will be the outcome if "costs" are increased due to new agreements and "loss of profits" in case of industrial actions.
Then when they are axing bases and employees they have a very "good" scapegoat, simply blame the unions.
Just some random speculations.

lomapaseo 30th Jul 2019 14:45


Originally Posted by procede (Post 10532037)
Not sure why he is blaming the MAX delivery delays whilst downsizing (including cutting aircraft numbers) for economic reasons. It seems to be a blessing in disguise.

The Max delivery issues affect the plan for need of both pilots and crew combining with a loss of interest by the public in local flying. Yes, one can separate them, but some will lose their job for one or the other reason.

Papa_Golf 30th Jul 2019 15:20

Typical MOL whining before potential industrial actions. Nothing to see here, move on.

McBruce 30th Jul 2019 15:22

Same old drivel as winter season approaches just <insert excuse here> and squeeze your suppliers/staff harder.

compton3bravo 30th Jul 2019 17:39

I love the part where he says that some redundancies might have to be made because hardly any pilots have left voluntarily..Of how I laughed!

dboy 30th Jul 2019 17:57

What is so funny about it? The company’s profit has decreased again and the ones working for Ryanair might lose their job!! I dont understand the joke. Aviation is facing difficult times again.

172_driver 30th Jul 2019 18:25

Pilots and cabin crew alike "loose their job" every year to the extent necessary to match the winter program?
This was bound to happen, sooner or later. Nothing grows forever.

I presume seniority has not been properly implemented? I'd be worried if I was a contractor or a new hire.

Unless they're bluffing, but I am not so sure this time...

SaulGoodman 30th Jul 2019 18:32

Is it the people who work for RYR that are in the dangerzone or the contractors that are “self employed”.

This MOL is a greedy mofo who does not respect the men and women that keep the airplanes in the air.
Where I work we hired plenty of RYR pilots over the last 12 months so there are definately people leaving.

zerotohero 30th Jul 2019 18:46

Id imagine contractors are fine as they are free if they don't fly apart from recurrent training. This to me looks like a good way to lose Ryanair employees that are expensive and also weaken the union.

I did hear there are lots of quite rosters now and guys offered unpaid leave instead of standbys. Again id assume this is just Ryanair direct employment. Be interesting to hear how busy contractors are.

And they only made £262million in the last quarter.... oh boo hoo. How ever will they pay the light bill with a quarter of a billion in 3 months.

SaulGoodman 30th Jul 2019 18:50


Originally Posted by zerotohero (Post 10532336)
Id imagine contractors are fine as they are free if they don't fly apart from recurrent training. This to me looks like a good way to lose Ryanair employees that are expensive and also weaken the union.

If this is really the case I would strongly recommend to take out legal insurance that covers employment related issues. As long as there are contractors no direct employed pilot should loose his or her job!


gearlever 30th Jul 2019 19:30

Poor shareholders....;)

BluSdUp 30th Jul 2019 19:52

Relax!
 
A fair warning , I must say.
But a bit of a worst case thing he is projecting. And I can not blame him with the nutters in power in the UK.
I must say he is not correct with regards to no one quitting.
I personally know several,and what is more SAS are doing the biggest hiring , post 9/11. KLM and just about every other larger European operator is hiring due to large pension groups the next 6 to 9 months.
The only exception being Norwegian, for obvious reasons.
Most Captains I talk to are flying close to maximum, contractors or RYR.
So here is a news flash from an observer: RYR does NOT have to many Pilots, just to many Cadets.
The fly them until 499hrs then mostly stby as at 500hrs they cost more.
Welcome to the 0 hrs Contract Club!
Regards
Cpt B

BluSdUp 30th Jul 2019 20:17

Bingo!
Why do You think PB left!

His dudeness 30th Jul 2019 20:46

"our partners, the unions"....

He really is a comedian....


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