Another Disruptive Passenger
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-48732642
Only a few thousand pounds of the defence budget gone. |
Originally Posted by Herod
(Post 10500612)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-48732642
Only a few thousand pounds of the defence budget gone. |
Originally Posted by XV490
(Post 10500628)
A few? A hundred grand at least, surely? Plus a tanker reportedly involved. Makes my blood pressure soar well above its already unhealthy average level.
With you on the blood pressure though. Cost to everyone on the flight, wasted fuel, f/a stress of dealing with worse than the usual class of idiot. Military escort suggests security issue, so perhaps stress to all pax and crew as well thinking that they might not make it home. |
Originally Posted by PerPurumTonantes
(Post 10500635)
You'd hope that if they weren't doing that, they'd be doing other great training exercises. So maybe net cost to uk defence budget negligible..
That said I'm still all for throwing the book and bookcase at the disruptive passenger. |
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/935360...terror-hijack/
The Good Old British Press has now moved to hijack mode!! When the Daily M--l gets it all passengers will have been doomed! Appears to have been the Titan Airways A321 currently with Jet2 |
Originally Posted by wiggy
(Post 10500652)
That said I'm still all for throwing the book and bookcase at the disruptive passenger.
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Originally Posted by Herod
(Post 10500612)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-48732642
Only a few thousand pounds of the defence budget gone. |
"Why me? Why me?" Aw, poor diddums
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There was a time when the Royal Air Force scrambled fighters to face real foes, not flying busloads of scr0tes.
Maybe I'll have calmed down in the morning, but I doubt it. I have visions of the culprit eventually dining out on her notoriety. 😬 |
Hello all long time lurker on the forum and nervous SLF rather than professional aviator. Work as A&E Doctor and have CRM type interests...
Can anyone explain why a fighter jet helps deal with an unruly passenger - according to daily mail she was restrained by 6 other passengers/crew, pictures show a smallish Lady on the floor. What does a fighter jet do to help? |
Originally Posted by _drjim_
(Post 10500728)
Hello all long time lurker on the forum and nervous SLF rather than professional aviator. Work as A&E Doctor and have CRM type interests...
Can anyone explain why a fighter jet helps deal with an unruly passenger - according to daily mail she was restrained by 6 other passengers/crew, pictures show a smallish Lady on the floor. What does a fighter jet do to help? |
Originally Posted by marchino61
(Post 10500759)
I believe they will shoot down the aircraft if it is judged to be a danger to people on the ground.
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Originally Posted by _drjim_
(Post 10500728)
Hello all long time lurker on the forum and nervous SLF rather than professional aviator. Work as A&E Doctor and have CRM type interests...
Can anyone explain why a fighter jet helps deal with an unruly passenger - according to daily mail she was restrained by 6 other passengers/crew, pictures show a smallish Lady on the floor. What does a fighter jet do to help? |
Originally Posted by _drjim_
(Post 10500728)
Hello all long time lurker on the forum and nervous SLF rather than professional aviator. Work as A&E Doctor and have CRM type interests...
Can anyone explain why a fighter jet helps deal with an unruly passenger - according to daily mail she was restrained by 6 other passengers/crew, pictures show a smallish Lady on the floor. What does a fighter jet do to help? ATC were not to know the exact situation in cabin. One report said pilot in radio message said “cockpit secure”, which presumably rather than reassure ATC made them feel cockpit breach had been attempted. Further reports say passenger rushed at cockpit door before restrained. Not saying she attempted to hijack, but ATC are playing it safe. |
How can a fighter escort mitigate a disruptive pax?
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/jet2-stansted-raf-jets-sonic-boom-typhoon-qra-a8970716.htm
Genuine question from a pax - how does a fighter escort help resolve a disruptive passenger situation? |
The security services on the ground don’t necessarily know that it’s just some chav whos had too much too drink. They may well have to assume it’s an attempt at a breach of the flight deck, and since 9/11, do you really need it spelling out as to why the typhoons are there? |
What is it with all these diversions for disruptive pax - ?
It's daily!! Not just on flights to/from UK but it seems to be occurring all over. In my aviation career from almost 50 years ago we never had one diversion for any such behaviour - Such pax would never have got to the aircraft door in my day, or if they got messy on board then the no. 1 CC held short shift with anyone misbehaving... And I think we experienced maybe one medical diversion in all that time - now that too is a daily occurrence with sick pax |
Can anyone explain why a fighter jet helps deal with an unruly passenger - according to daily mail she was restrained by 6 other passengers/crew, pictures show a smallish Lady on the floor. What does a fighter jet do to help? |
I'm guessing that the RAF wanted an excuse to test out their reaction time and had a word with air traffic for a heads up next time there was a minor incident such as yesterday, I used to rely on gate staff, handling agents and cabin crew to screen these idiots from boarding. If there was any doubt then they would not be carried on my aircraft. Problem lies in the availability of booze 24/7 allied to the fact that the first thing the airlines do is offer passengers alcohol regardless of the time of day. I never had to divert for unruly pax but on numerous occasions I made sure that they were met with friendly local police whose modus operandi may not have been quite as politically correct as in the UK ! |
Originally Posted by 3Greens
(Post 10500852)
The security services on the ground don’t necessarily know that it’s just some chav whos had too much too drink. They may well have to assume it’s an attempt at a breach of the flight deck, and since 9/11, do you really need it spelling out as to why the typhoons are there? |
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