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-   -   Sheremetyevo Superjet 100 in flames (https://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/621198-sheremetyevo-superjet-100-flames.html)

derjodel 5th May 2019 17:28
Originally Posted by atakacs (Post 10463701)
Well it would be extremely surprising that everyone got out of this one (but obviously hope so).
Unclear about what was on fire? I'd hope it wasn't a massive cabin fire so the only other likely explanation would be engine?
Seems to me like wing tanks on both sides are burning.

CargoOne 5th May 2019 17:31
Originally Posted by DDDriver (Post 10463702)


Whenever I fly as pax I always keep wallet, phone, and passport in my pockets for this reason. Not that it would take so long, but it’s one less bit of hassle.
As a general guess you are more educated on air travel compared to an average pax. But it doesnt work like that on longhaul, and SU takes your jacket and coat out in business class on shorthaul too

cats_five 5th May 2019 17:33
Originally Posted by DDDriver (Post 10463675)
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EDIT - yes, of course I agree all bags should be left behind. Just for clarity!
Even bags with medication in? I've got asthma, a faint whiff of the fumes from a car fire had me wheezing. I would take my handbag with blue inhaler & spacer.

derjodel 5th May 2019 17:36
Originally Posted by cats_five (Post 10463706)
Even bags with medication in? I've got asthma, a faint whiff of the fumes from a car fire had me wheezing. I would take my handbag with blue inhaler & spacer.
I would almost expect first responders to have some inhalers available you know...

DDDriver 5th May 2019 17:37
Originally Posted by CargoOne (Post 10463705)


As a general guess you are more educated on air travel compared to an average pax. But it doesnt work like that on longhaul, and SU takes your jacket and coat out in business class on shorthaul too
True enough. I think I'd always make sure they were within arm's reach though to grab and pocket them if at all possible. As I say above, fortunately never had to try it out in real life.

I don't think there's very much can be done to prevent the bag issue. Possibly educating people to pocket these items, but other than banning cabin bags I'm not certain there's any other solution.

Anyhow, it remains to be seen what the final outcome here is going to be. Clearly many escaped, so praise to the crew for that. Deeply sad if any casualties confirmed, which seems likely.

Frequent_Flyer 5th May 2019 17:37
You can see the burning plane landing here. It makes me cry just to see it. Vesti reports that everyone was able to evacuate.
https://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=3144267#

Edited: Now 13 confirmed dead by medics. :{

hoss183 5th May 2019 17:37
It was squwaking 7700 for a while and did one circuit before landing, one would think the ARFF would have had plenty of time to get in place.....
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/f...u1492#20671283

captplaystation 5th May 2019 17:47
Sorry to be cynical, but, SSS is Sukhoi Super Jet, or, Soviet Sh1t Jet . . . . . . . .

Certification crashes, Jurassic engine that sounds like a 732, wing spar problems, no spares or support . . . ask City Jet . . . Brussels Airlines , or Adria.

Of course, this or worse can happen to a Boeing or Airbus, but. . . . . . . . . wouldn't strap into one unless it was the last flight outta a war zone, sorry.

paperHanger 5th May 2019 17:52
Odd that they flew a hold ...

andrasz 5th May 2019 17:56
Originally Posted by paperHanger (Post 10463722)
Odd that they flew a hold ...
If reports of a total electrical failure correct, nothing odd about it. They probably needed more time for checklists / configure for landing with key systems out.

Neufunk 5th May 2019 17:59
In the evacuation video, you can see some bodies being thrown on the slides, just after the FAs. Grim.

MPN11 5th May 2019 18:04
Originally Posted by DDDriver (Post 10463702)


Whenever I fly as pax I always keep wallet, phone, and passport in my pockets for this reason. Not that it would take so long, but it’s one less bit of hassle.
One reason we (leisure pax) now both travel in cargo trousers. Plenty of space for critical items.

CodyBlade 5th May 2019 18:06
2 loss of SJ100 after Indonesia CFIT?

gearlever 5th May 2019 18:07
Originally Posted by Teddy Robinson (Post 10463732)
"I dont think they had much choice on that, being that the landing gear had departed"

Looked to me as if the gear was intact until the turn, but hey.
The landing was with nose high... looks like no MLG to me.

paperHanger 5th May 2019 18:11
Originally Posted by andrasz (Post 10463728)
If reports of a total electrical failure correct, nothing odd about it. They probably needed more time for checklists / configure for landing with key systems out.
Shrug ... with flames coming out of the back, time to get it down is all that counts really, we train for a Vne descent, or full flaps and Vso depending on distance to run. Given that it appears the gear fell off, any time spent checking gear down was wasted ... still, I wasn't there, looks like they did a decent job.

andrasz 5th May 2019 18:12
Originally Posted by gearlever (Post 10463741)
The landing was with nose high... looks like no MLG to me.
Originally Posted by paperHanger (Post 10463742)
Shrug ... with flames coming out of the back...
IF rumors correct, there was NO in-flight fire, only electric failure and loss of comms due to a lightning strike. MLG collapsed on third touchdown after two bounces, fire broke out afterwards. Available video only shows the aircraft already on fire, sliding to a halt.

gearlever 5th May 2019 18:14
Originally Posted by paperHanger (Post 10463742)
Shrug ... with flames coming out of the back, time to get it down is all that counts really, we train for a Vne descent, or full flaps and Vso depending on distance to run. Given that it appears the gear fell off, any time spent checking gear down was wasted ... still, I wasn't there, looks like they did a decent job.
"flames coming out of the back" inflight?

derjodel 5th May 2019 18:16
Originally Posted by Teddy Robinson (Post 10463732)
"I dont think they had much choice on that, being that the landing gear had departed"

Looked to me as if the gear was intact until the turn, but hey.
I'm pretty sure the dark spot is engine and they are sliding on the engines. Seems exactly like the one in Yakutsk where landing gears collapsed.
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....6236451622.png
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....6ce19a80a6.jpg

Super VC-10 5th May 2019 18:22
Originally Posted by CodyBlade (Post 10463739)
2 loss of SJ100 after Indonesia CFIT?
Three losses. The Yakutia accident on 10 October 2018 was a hull loss too.

San Diego kid 5th May 2019 18:24
Wow, that was painfull to watch how long firefighters needed to arrive.


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