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Frequent_Flyer 5th May 2019 16:15

Sheremetyevo Superjet 100 in flames
 
https://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=3144257

Link to Russian news: In Sheremetyevo an Aeroflot Superjet 100 crash landed on second landing attempt. Huge fire broke out.
It was scheduled to fly to Murmansk and requested to return to Moscow due to an engine fire. SU1492
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/a...89098#20671283

gearlever 5th May 2019 16:21

video superjet 100

fly4beer 5th May 2019 16:24

/dimsmirnov175/status/1125068956644126720

not allowed to post URL's so add twitter.com

His dudeness 5th May 2019 16:36

Lets hope that everyone got out okay.

Longtimer 5th May 2019 16:40

From the BBC https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-48171392

A Russian passenger plane has made an emergency landing at Moscow airport after a fire broke out mid-flight, state media report.

Videos on social media show passengers using emergency exit slides to escape the Aeroflot aircraft.

Other footage shows the plane landing while on fire and black smoke billowing from it on the tarmac.
Initial reports on Russian media suggest all 78 passengers on-board were evacuated.
It remains unclear how many people have been injured in the large blaze. The aircraft is a reportedly a Sukhoi Superjet-100 that had been bound for the city of Murmansk.


DDDriver 5th May 2019 16:42

BBC reporting all safe “according to Russian Media”.

Fingers crossed. From videos, they’re lucky if so.

andrasz 5th May 2019 16:45

Video of evacuation:

Conflicting reports, according to TASS several injured but all got out, Novosti 'likely casualties', Interfax reports 10 perished.

Longtimer 5th May 2019 16:47

FIREBALL

Five hurt as passenger plane is engulfed in flames during emergency landing in Moscow

Dramatic footage shows the jet engulfed in flames as it came down on the runway https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/900890...nding-airport/
Breaking
By Phoebe Cooke
5th May 2019, 5:29 pmUpdated: 5th May 2019, 5:44 pm
DRAMATIC footage shows a passenger jet engulfed in flames as it made an emergency landing at Moscow airport today.

Five people were hurt after a fire on board led to the crash landing, Russia's Interfax news agency reported, citing a source.Flames were seen flaring from the rear of the Russian-built aircraft with a reported 78 on board

Russian state TV showed footage of the plane with black smoke rising above its tail.

Video posted on social media showed much of the plane engulfed by flame as it sped down the runway.
Officials have said all 78 passengers were evacuated.
The Russian Aeroflot Sukhoi Superjet plane was forced to make the landing at Sheremetyevo airport today.
video of aircraft landing on fire. https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/900890...nding-airport/

Icanseeclearly 5th May 2019 16:51

Fingers crossed all are ok.

i will be the first to say it, emergency landing, big fire yet people still taking their hand baggage with them (including if I’m nit mistaken a couple of larger “wheelie bags”

i know as professionals we bang on about this all th time but there is a possibility here of injuries or worse because of it.

Deep and fast 5th May 2019 16:54

Going by the size of the fire, the crew did a good job getting it quickly back to the airport and pax off!

DDDriver 5th May 2019 16:55


Originally Posted by Icanseeclearly (Post 10463667)
Fingers crossed all are ok.

i will be the first to say it, emergency landing, big fire yet people still taking their hand baggage with them (including if I’m nit mistaken a couple of larger “wheelie bags”

i know as professionals we bang on about this all th time but there is a possibility here of injuries or worse because of it.

Fortunately I’ve never been in this situation. I think it’s hard to judge people based on these events otherwise - very much operating on adrenaline and instincts, grabbing bag could be very much a subconscious decision. Same as people in burning buildings who instinctively go for the way they came in, rather than the nearest exit.

Only way to stop it would be to ban cabin bags.

Still, if they’ve got out of that it’s a significant achievement by the crew.

EDIT - yes, of course I agree all bags should be left behind. Just for clarity!

liider 5th May 2019 16:59


derjodel 5th May 2019 17:06


Originally Posted by liider (Post 10463679)

No firefighters/rescue, like at all? Or am I blind?

Looks bad for the pax in the rear :eek:. Plane was half in flames before they opened the exits!

DDDriver 5th May 2019 17:12


Originally Posted by derjodel (Post 10463683)
No firefighters/rescue, like at all? Or am I blind?

Looks bad for the pax in the rear :eek:. Plane was half in flames before they opened the exits!

Some video angles show appliances and water jets.

Still mixed reports re casualties. Would be very (pleasantly) surprised if everyone makes it out - the rear seems well alight as it lands and comes to a stop. By the time the slides deploy half the plane is engulfed on the outside at least.

guadaMB 5th May 2019 17:12

Yeps...
Looks like firefighters were...not where they had to be considering the plane TURNED BACK and flames could be seen before/when TAKING LAND.

Deep and fast 5th May 2019 17:17

Looking like 12 plus 1 crew. Sad day again. Lucky to make it back to the airport at all to be honest.

andrasz 5th May 2019 17:19

UNCONFIRMED discussion on Russian social media sites suggest linghtning strike and total electric failure (including loss of communications) on climbout, bounced twice on landing, on third touchdown MLG failed and fire broke out. 'Sources' at airport now speak of 12 casualties in rear rows.

Appears to be a rather poor performance from the side of ARFF, no fire trucks visible for at least 90 seconds following door opening, all this with a known emergency (even if there was no communications with the aircaft, twr should have raised the alarm on seeing the aircraft returning).

CargoOne 5th May 2019 17:21


Originally Posted by Icanseeclearly (Post 10463667)
Fingers crossed all are ok.

i will be the first to say it, emergency landing, big fire yet people still taking their hand baggage with them (including if I’m nit mistaken a couple of larger “wheelie bags”

i know as professionals we bang on about this all th time but there is a possibility here of injuries or worse because of it.

Russian citizens cannot afford loosing their passport - it would take good half a year to make the new one, and you are semi-paralysed during that time as a citizen, business owner, employee, property owner, pensioner etc. On the other side they all perfectly know there will be no compensation for damages on domestic flight accident. So dont blame people they want their stuff out with them...

atakacs 5th May 2019 17:24

Well it would be extremely surprising that everyone got out of this one (but obviously hope so).
Unclear about what was on fire? I'd hope it wasn't a massive cabin fire so the only other likely explanation would be engine?

DDDriver 5th May 2019 17:25


Originally Posted by CargoOne (Post 10463698)


Russian citizens cannot afford loosing their passport - it would take good half a year to make the new one, and you are semi-paralysed during that time as a citizen, business owner, employee, property owner, pensioner etc. On the other side they all perfectly know there will be no compensation for damages on domestic flight accident. So dont blame people they want their stuff out with them...

Whenever I fly as pax I always keep wallet, phone, and passport in my pockets for this reason. Not that it would take so long, but it’s one less bit of hassle.

derjodel 5th May 2019 17:28


Originally Posted by atakacs (Post 10463701)
Well it would be extremely surprising that everyone got out of this one (but obviously hope so).
Unclear about what was on fire? I'd hope it wasn't a massive cabin fire so the only other likely explanation would be engine?

Seems to me like wing tanks on both sides are burning.

CargoOne 5th May 2019 17:31


Originally Posted by DDDriver (Post 10463702)


Whenever I fly as pax I always keep wallet, phone, and passport in my pockets for this reason. Not that it would take so long, but it’s one less bit of hassle.

As a general guess you are more educated on air travel compared to an average pax. But it doesnt work like that on longhaul, and SU takes your jacket and coat out in business class on shorthaul too

cats_five 5th May 2019 17:33


Originally Posted by DDDriver (Post 10463675)
<snip>

EDIT - yes, of course I agree all bags should be left behind. Just for clarity!

Even bags with medication in? I've got asthma, a faint whiff of the fumes from a car fire had me wheezing. I would take my handbag with blue inhaler & spacer.

derjodel 5th May 2019 17:36


Originally Posted by cats_five (Post 10463706)
Even bags with medication in? I've got asthma, a faint whiff of the fumes from a car fire had me wheezing. I would take my handbag with blue inhaler & spacer.

I would almost expect first responders to have some inhalers available you know...

DDDriver 5th May 2019 17:37


Originally Posted by CargoOne (Post 10463705)


As a general guess you are more educated on air travel compared to an average pax. But it doesnt work like that on longhaul, and SU takes your jacket and coat out in business class on shorthaul too

True enough. I think I'd always make sure they were within arm's reach though to grab and pocket them if at all possible. As I say above, fortunately never had to try it out in real life.

I don't think there's very much can be done to prevent the bag issue. Possibly educating people to pocket these items, but other than banning cabin bags I'm not certain there's any other solution.

Anyhow, it remains to be seen what the final outcome here is going to be. Clearly many escaped, so praise to the crew for that. Deeply sad if any casualties confirmed, which seems likely.

Frequent_Flyer 5th May 2019 17:37

You can see the burning plane landing here. It makes me cry just to see it. Vesti reports that everyone was able to evacuate.
https://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=3144267#

Edited: Now 13 confirmed dead by medics. :{

hoss183 5th May 2019 17:37

It was squwaking 7700 for a while and did one circuit before landing, one would think the ARFF would have had plenty of time to get in place.....
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/f...u1492#20671283

captplaystation 5th May 2019 17:47

Sorry to be cynical, but, SSS is Sukhoi Super Jet, or, Soviet Sh1t Jet . . . . . . . .

Certification crashes, Jurassic engine that sounds like a 732, wing spar problems, no spares or support . . . ask City Jet . . . Brussels Airlines , or Adria.

Of course, this or worse can happen to a Boeing or Airbus, but. . . . . . . . . wouldn't strap into one unless it was the last flight outta a war zone, sorry.

paperHanger 5th May 2019 17:52

Odd that they flew a hold ...

andrasz 5th May 2019 17:56


Originally Posted by paperHanger (Post 10463722)
Odd that they flew a hold ...

If reports of a total electrical failure correct, nothing odd about it. They probably needed more time for checklists / configure for landing with key systems out.

Neufunk 5th May 2019 17:59

In the evacuation video, you can see some bodies being thrown on the slides, just after the FAs. Grim.

MPN11 5th May 2019 18:04


Originally Posted by DDDriver (Post 10463702)


Whenever I fly as pax I always keep wallet, phone, and passport in my pockets for this reason. Not that it would take so long, but it’s one less bit of hassle.

One reason we (leisure pax) now both travel in cargo trousers. Plenty of space for critical items.

CodyBlade 5th May 2019 18:06

2 loss of SJ100 after Indonesia CFIT?

gearlever 5th May 2019 18:07


Originally Posted by Teddy Robinson (Post 10463732)
"I dont think they had much choice on that, being that the landing gear had departed"

Looked to me as if the gear was intact until the turn, but hey.

The landing was with nose high... looks like no MLG to me.

paperHanger 5th May 2019 18:11


Originally Posted by andrasz (Post 10463728)
If reports of a total electrical failure correct, nothing odd about it. They probably needed more time for checklists / configure for landing with key systems out.

Shrug ... with flames coming out of the back, time to get it down is all that counts really, we train for a Vne descent, or full flaps and Vso depending on distance to run. Given that it appears the gear fell off, any time spent checking gear down was wasted ... still, I wasn't there, looks like they did a decent job.

andrasz 5th May 2019 18:12


Originally Posted by gearlever (Post 10463741)
The landing was with nose high... looks like no MLG to me.


Originally Posted by paperHanger (Post 10463742)
Shrug ... with flames coming out of the back...

IF rumors correct, there was NO in-flight fire, only electric failure and loss of comms due to a lightning strike. MLG collapsed on third touchdown after two bounces, fire broke out afterwards. Available video only shows the aircraft already on fire, sliding to a halt.

gearlever 5th May 2019 18:14


Originally Posted by paperHanger (Post 10463742)
Shrug ... with flames coming out of the back, time to get it down is all that counts really, we train for a Vne descent, or full flaps and Vso depending on distance to run. Given that it appears the gear fell off, any time spent checking gear down was wasted ... still, I wasn't there, looks like they did a decent job.

"flames coming out of the back" inflight?

derjodel 5th May 2019 18:16


Originally Posted by Teddy Robinson (Post 10463732)
"I dont think they had much choice on that, being that the landing gear had departed"

Looked to me as if the gear was intact until the turn, but hey.

I'm pretty sure the dark spot is engine and they are sliding on the engines. Seems exactly like the one in Yakutsk where landing gears collapsed.
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....6236451622.png
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....6ce19a80a6.jpg

Super VC-10 5th May 2019 18:22


Originally Posted by CodyBlade (Post 10463739)
2 loss of SJ100 after Indonesia CFIT?

Three losses. The Yakutia accident on 10 October 2018 was a hull loss too.

San Diego kid 5th May 2019 18:24

Wow, that was painfull to watch how long firefighters needed to arrive.


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