I thought they were grounded?
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From the article
"the FAA grounded the 737 MAX following two fatal crashes since October but has allowed airlines to conduct flights without passengers to move planes to other airports" |
Originally Posted by Bankstown Boy
(Post 10430723)
From the article
"the FAA grounded the 737 MAX following two fatal crashes since October but has allowed airlines to conduct flights without passengers to move planes to other airports" |
Is the EASA allowing the MAX to be re-positioned? There are news of an IG plane unable to leave CAI since the 12th.
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It was Southwest 8701, N8712L, a B-737 MAX 8 MCO-VCV.
From FR24: https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....a91b9ae57e.jpg |
Victorville is generally where planes go to die. It has no commercial service.
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It didn't get too far, returned to MCO following an engine failure shortly after departure..
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Southwest is ferrying its 737 Max fleet to Victorville for storage.
https://onemileatatime.com/southwest-737-max-storage/ |
Southwest making a commercial judgment - looking to store some airframes in Victoriaville as they think this may take a while - or fling for there to check out another issue on this aircraft.
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Originally Posted by n5296s
(Post 10430758)
Victorville is generally where planes go to die. It has no commercial service.
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Originally Posted by Airbubba
(Post 10430750)
It was Southwest 8701, N1712L, a B-737 MAX 8 MCO-VCV.
Wow, shortly after takeoff too, would be interested to know exactly where in the flight path the "engine problem" occurred. Was it while they were banking shortly after takeoff??? |
Originally Posted by Simplythebeast
(Post 10430731)
surely any movements should have been undertaken by now? |
WN8701 reported a right engine failure on takeoff, was given a block altitude 2000 to 3000 feet and took vectors for a landing on 36L at MCO.
After the fire crew took a look at the engine and brakes, WN8701 taxied to the gate, not the hangar. |
It's just a flight to ferry the plane to its "storage" place while the grounding still takes effect.
But, there's A HUGE ELEPHANT in the room. The Max 8 engine, CFM Leap-1B, seems to have been failing in a very alarming rate lately... Incidents of MAX 8 engines failure as compiled by AVHERALD: Incident: Southwest B38M at Orlando on Mar 26th 2019, engine shut down in flight Incident: TUI B38M near Chania on Jan 29th 2019, engine problem Incident: Spicejet B38M near Varanasi on Jan 6th 2019, engine shut down in flight Incident: Norwegian B38M near Shiraz on Dec 14th 2018, engine shut down in flight Are these incidents are simply showing a normal "growing pain" for this new type of engine CFM Leap-1B?? Or, it shows a major problem with its reliability/durability?? |
I thought they were grounded?
Here we go again ...
Maybe we could save time - could anyone with verifiable proof that airlines are defying the ban and flying passengers on a 737 Max kindly post some evidence? Thought not. |
Southwest corrects the earlier news reports of an engine failure at MCO ;):
Southwest Airlines said the plane returned to the airport after pilots reported a "performance issue'' with one of the engines. https://www.usatoday.com/story/trave...ge/3281138002/ If you've ever taken a plane into or out of maintenance at an airline hub you can see why they went back to the gate, not the hangar. The contract ground transportation company and crew skeds always seem to get lost trying to find the right address for the hangar at a large airport. I've had a mechanic take us over to the terminal in the pickup truck after waiting a while for a ride that didn't come. |
Originally Posted by patplan
(Post 10430812)
It's just a flight to ferry the plane to its "storage" place while the grounding still takes effect.
But, there's A HUGE ELEPHANT in the room. The Max 8 engine, CFM Leap-1B, seems to have been failing in a very alarming rate lately... Incidents of MAX 8 engines failure as compiled by AVHERALD: Incident: Southwest B38M at Orlando on Mar 26th 2019, engine shut down in flight Incident: TUI B38M near Chania on Jan 29th 2019, engine problem Incident: Spicejet B38M near Varanasi on Jan 6th 2019, engine shut down in flight Incident: Norwegian B38M near Shiraz on Dec 14th 2018, engine shut down in flight Are these incidents are simply showing a normal "growing pain" for this new type of engine CFM Leap-1B?? Or, it shows a major problem with its reliability/durability?? I doubt anyone is going to get to0 excited over ~1 shutdown per 180,000 hours on a new engine type. That's pretty good rate for a mature engine type.. |
My local TV indicated that they ingested debris on the runway. Afterwards they showed people picking up debris off the runway. The last shot in the video showed the plane being towed away (not at a gate)
I suspected that they may have used an inactive portion of the field to takeoff that might have collected wind blown debris. Just a curious point not significant to the Max 8 problems |
Originally Posted by Bankstown Boy
(Post 10430723)
From the article
"the FAA grounded the 737 MAX following two fatal crashes since October but has allowed airlines to conduct flights without passengers to move planes to other airports" |
Originally Posted by jewitts
(Post 10430878)
I guess all are risk evaluated,, but imagine egg on faces if one of these ferry flights resulted in another total loss? Smells like Boeing already knew the problem intimately, just tried to hide it. FAA COMPLICIT? |
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