Rowdy passengers in brawl on Ryanair flight
This reported of a Ryanair flight from PIK to TFS today on the Evening Standard website,
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...cid=spartandhp 2 things need to happen as a result of this. 1 Those allegedly involved arrested and detained. 2 Should any of those present themselves at the check-in for their return flights they are told in no uncertain terms they will not be allowed to fly, and they have been banned from flying with Ryanair for life. Other airlines should also refuse them carriage. How they get home is their problem. |
Why oh why do they keep serving them booze until quote "they were very drunk"
Ryanair staff are culpable in this situation ! El Grifo |
Why oh why do they keep serving them booze until quote "they were very drunk" Ryanair staff are culpable in this situation ! |
Why oh why do they keep serving them booze until quote "they were very drunk" Ryanair staff are culpable in this situation ! |
Next item to be added to the MEL:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cattle_prod I wonder how it's going to be certified..... :E |
Yep ! Drinking their own alcohol !
That would be it Cabin Staff blameless !! Totally illegal, but hey ! El G. |
The only solution is to do precisely what the OP suggested. Make sure that these IDIOTS never fly again!!!
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Did Ryanair charge the other passengers since they were able to witness this fighting event? :} |
Yep ! Drinking their own alcohol ! That would be it Cabin Staff blameless !! Totally illegal, but hey ! |
Is that what air travel has come down to? Carrying low life common scums. |
Well for sure it has with Ryanair !
Dragged down to the depths ! El G. |
Originally Posted by El Grifo
(Post 10422605)
Yep ! Drinking their own alcohol !
That would be it Cabin Staff blameless !! Totally illegal, but hey ! Mind you, I once sat next to a high ranking officer (in uniform) belonging to the armed forces of a very large country of the western hemisphere. During the flight he emptied a one litre duty free bottle of burbon by diluting the coke with it that they were serving him... No one dared tell him how totally illegal his action was! The worst about it was the he didn't offer me any... |
Drinking one’s own alcohol onboard is not illegal, but it is against Company policy. Until the Law changes there’s nothing you can do about it legally.. |
Ban sale of Alcohol in airports and on planes. If you wish to buy alcohol the airline will have it ready for you to collect on arrival. This would actually make a huge difference as no more carrying of a couple of hundred kilos of booze on flights.
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Appalling behaviour - life-time ban for total lack of respect for the etiquette required for flying as a passenger.
Obviously us pilots can continue to behave disgracefully. :} |
Drinking one’s own alcohol onboard is not illegal, Alcohol or Drugs — Passengers
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Originally Posted by Pilot DAR
(Post 10422897)
In Canada it is:
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A fine line, but I see the nuance. I imagine that a flight attendant would refuse to handle or serve alcohol not owned by the airline. Refusing to serve it to the passenger owner of the alcohol creates a dilemma of "I won't serve it to you, nor return it to you, I know that you own it, but I'm keeping it for now.". I can see an argument arising out of that. Best avoided entirely by insisting on serving only airline alcohol.
The next line of the same regulation reads: (b) where no flight attendant is on board, has been provided by the operator of the aircraft. |
Don't open airport bars until 11.00 to stall this sort of behaviour. Simple.
If the tattooed shorts-and-T-shirt-clad morons needs five pints of lager at 05;00, then they won't be fit to fly. They could be blocking my exit in an emergency, never mind causing anti-social cabin problems. Not going to happen though, is it... |
Originally Posted by Pilot DAR
(Post 10422945)
I imagine that a flight attendant would refuse to handle or serve alcohol not owned by the airline.
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I concede !
Totally illegal to carry on and serve drink to yourself ! If you can cajole or convince a member of the cabin staff to serve it for you, then it is not illegal ! El Grifo |
"first-class or business-class passenger? "
That´d be a new one at Ryanair.... |
I believe there is a concerted move (today's Times) to pack alcohol purchases at the airport into bags that require a knife or scissors to open. The theory is that since no knives or scissors can get past security (!), the passengers won't have access to the booze until landside at destination. Not before time.
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I might be accused of being racist although I am Irish but the flight did originate in Glasgow.
You know it has a certain reputation...... Yes mods ban me for suggesting Scots might be excitable. Given we Irish are as pure as the driven snow with alcohol taken. Plus you English who never drink much. |
Racedos on the right track.If you must have "duty free"have it presented at the destination on production of your receipt.Why oh why do people have to (a)get drunk before a flight?(b)feel the need for alcohol all the time unless they are alcoholics? When I was working away quite a few of us would meet at a certain terminal bar and have a couple of pints as our destinations were more than likely alcohol free countries but we were never rowdy or caused fights.Think its just a generation thing like tattoos and funny hair styles maybe eventually people like this will change!!
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Yes mods ban me for suggesting Scots might be excitable. Given we Irish are as pure as the driven snow with alcohol taken. Plus you English who never drink much. |
Originally Posted by Pilot DAR
(Post 10423140)
I'll let it slide just this once, as my heritage is Scottish, and I wouldn't want to seem excitable...
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Originally Posted by racedo
(Post 10422767)
Ban sale of Alcohol in airports and on planes. If you wish to buy alcohol the airline will have it ready for you to collect on arrival. This would actually make a huge difference as no more carrying of a couple of hundred kilos of booze on flights.
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Funny that there’s a waypoint near Glasgow called ABEVI! |
Originally Posted by racedo
(Post 10422767)
Ban sale of Alcohol in airports and on planes. If you wish to buy alcohol the airline will have it ready for you to collect on arrival. This would actually make a huge difference as no more carrying of a couple of hundred kilos of booze on flights.
How about enforce the existing law which makes it an offence to be drunk in public, and an offence to serve alcohol to someone who is obviously drunk? I'm a tad mystified because in the report it states: "Once the plane landed and more alcohol was consumed..." |
It is not illegal to consume your own alcohol on a UK flight, or any othere European one afaik. However it is, I imagine, against all airlines' Ts and Cs so by extension doing so after a warning could be construed as failing to abide by the lawful commands of the Captain.
Dury Free, however is quite different.Bear in mind that people tend to call anything bought in the terminsl as 'duty free'. Of couse it isn't in Eu and domeatic flights, it's just discounted a bit. Real Duty Free is covered by Customs regulations that are law, and you aren't allowed to open it until through customs at the other end. |
Not really news, is it?
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Originally Posted by hans brinker
(Post 10422915)
Actually it is only illegal to serve oneself. Legally, you can bring your own and have the flight attendant serve it to you. Most airlines prefer to sell/serve their own drinks, and have that as rule in their OM
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The courts don't seem to understand the threat to safety. A "brawl" at FL310 is a bit different to one outside Revs on a Friday night.
Fine of a grand and ban them from every airline for 5 years. |
Originally Posted by Steepclimb
(Post 10423130)
I might be accused of being racist although I am Irish but the flight did originate in Glasgow.
You know it has a certain reputation...... Yes mods ban me for suggesting Scots might be excitable. Given we Irish are as pure as the driven snow with alcohol taken. Plus you English who never drink much. Landed at Gatwick and when waiting for gate Pilot came on and just said "To the Irish Football fans, from my crew and myslef we want to say Thank You, you have lived up to your reputation, it has been a really great pleasure having you on board. We were not expecting such an easy flight." That got a big cheer and singing until we got to the gate. |
Ban sale of Alcohol in airports and on planes. If you wish to buy alcohol the airline will have it ready for you to collect on arrival. This would actually make a huge difference as no more carrying of a couple of hundred kilos of booze on flights. |
Originally Posted by El Grifo
(Post 10422605)
Yep ! Drinking their own alcohol !
That would be it Cabin Staff blameless !! Totally illegal, but hey ! El G. So pilot are forewarned - but passengers are not. Until passengers are alerted to this, we shouldn't be too critical when they loose control. No one should expect that the amount of alcohol that they can handle at ground level will be the same as when flying. |
Trouble is 99.9% of us know how to use alcohol responsibly, you can't blame the CC or ban it altogether because of a small minority. Just have to prosecute and ban these idiots
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Originally Posted by racedo
(Post 10422767)
Ban sale of Alcohol in airports and on planes. If you wish to buy alcohol the airline will have it ready for you to collect on arrival. This would actually make a huge difference as no more carrying of a couple of hundred kilos of booze on flights.
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Originally Posted by hoss183
(Post 10423498)
Trouble is 99.9% of us know how to use alcohol responsibly, you can't blame the CC or ban it altogether because of a small minority. Just have to prosecute and ban these idiots
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