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Old 18th Mar 2019, 13:02
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Rowdy passengers in brawl on Ryanair flight

This reported of a Ryanair flight from PIK to TFS today on the Evening Standard website,

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...cid=spartandhp

2 things need to happen as a result of this.

1 Those allegedly involved arrested and detained.

2 Should any of those present themselves at the check-in for their return flights they are told in no uncertain terms they will not be allowed to fly, and they have been banned from flying with Ryanair for life. Other airlines should also refuse them carriage. How they get home is their problem.

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Old 18th Mar 2019, 13:54
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Why oh why do they keep serving them booze until quote "they were very drunk"
Ryanair staff are culpable in this situation !

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Old 18th Mar 2019, 14:04
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Why oh why do they keep serving them booze until quote "they were very drunk"
Ryanair staff are culpable in this situation !
How do you know they weren’t illicitly drinking their own alcohol. I suspect this is a more likely reason, it’s amazing how many empty bottles of duty free turn up during the cabin tidy.
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Why oh why do they keep serving them booze until quote "they were very drunk"
Ryanair staff are culpable in this situation !
I’d say there’s a high probability that they were drinking their own alcohol. You’d be amazed at the lengths some passengers go to in order to do it. The cabin crew can’t police everyone and nor should they have to.
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Next item to be added to the MEL:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cattle_prod

I wonder how it's going to be certified.....
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Yep ! Drinking their own alcohol !
That would be it
Cabin Staff blameless !!
Totally illegal, but hey !

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Old 18th Mar 2019, 15:27
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The only solution is to do precisely what the OP suggested. Make sure that these IDIOTS never fly again!!!
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Old 18th Mar 2019, 15:39
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Did Ryanair charge the other passengers since they were able to witness this fighting event?
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Yep ! Drinking their own alcohol !
That would be it
Cabin Staff blameless !!
Totally illegal, but hey !
Must be great living in a life where everything is black or white? You're correct, drinking their own alcohol is illegal; do you think these idiots care one iota? Do you think they are consuming it so blatantly that everyone and anybody will see? I have been involved in so many of these types of incidents, thankfully the majority brought to a much more subdued outcome, that I've lost count. Its become an endemic part of society and unfortunately for crew it becomes their problem to manage. Whilst I'll agree, not everyone can be blameless and some can handle situations better, I very much doubt this crew kept plying people with vast quantities of drink on a 4.5 hour flight.
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Is that what air travel has come down to? Carrying low life common scums.
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Old 18th Mar 2019, 16:34
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Well for sure it has with Ryanair !
Dragged down to the depths !
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Old 18th Mar 2019, 17:07
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Originally Posted by El Grifo View Post
Yep ! Drinking their own alcohol !
That would be it
Cabin Staff blameless !!
Totally illegal, but hey !
"Totally illegal", I don't know. There are dozens of places in a large airport terminal where they sell you as much alcohol as you want. Only a little sign next to the cash register tells you that your purchase must not be opened before you arrive at destination, usually in English language only. So yes, illegal maybe, but things that are "totally illegal" must be brought to people's attention a little better than that.
Mind you, I once sat next to a high ranking officer (in uniform) belonging to the armed forces of a very large country of the western hemisphere. During the flight he emptied a one litre duty free bottle of burbon by diluting the coke with it that they were serving him... No one dared tell him how totally illegal his action was! The worst about it was the he didn't offer me any...
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Old 18th Mar 2019, 17:58
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Drinking one’s own alcohol onboard is not illegal, but it is against Company policy. Until the Law changes there’s nothing you can do about it legally..
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Old 18th Mar 2019, 18:00
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Ban sale of Alcohol in airports and on planes. If you wish to buy alcohol the airline will have it ready for you to collect on arrival. This would actually make a huge difference as no more carrying of a couple of hundred kilos of booze on flights.
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Old 18th Mar 2019, 18:28
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Appalling behaviour - life-time ban for total lack of respect for the etiquette required for flying as a passenger.

Obviously us pilots can continue to behave disgracefully.
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Old 18th Mar 2019, 20:00
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Drinking one’s own alcohol onboard is not illegal,
In Canada it is:

Alcohol or Drugs — Passengers
  • 602.04 (1) In this section, intoxicating liquor means a beverage that contains more than 2.5 per cent proof spirits.
  • (2) No person shall consume on board an aircraft an intoxicating liquor unless the intoxicating liquor
    • (a) has been served to that person by the operator of the aircraft.......
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Old 18th Mar 2019, 20:17
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In Canada it is:
Actually it is only illegal to serve oneself. Legally, you can bring your own and have the flight attendant serve it to you. Most airlines prefer to sell/serve their own drinks, and have that as rule in their OM
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Old 18th Mar 2019, 20:45
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A fine line, but I see the nuance. I imagine that a flight attendant would refuse to handle or serve alcohol not owned by the airline. Refusing to serve it to the passenger owner of the alcohol creates a dilemma of "I won't serve it to you, nor return it to you, I know that you own it, but I'm keeping it for now.". I can see an argument arising out of that. Best avoided entirely by insisting on serving only airline alcohol.

The next line of the same regulation reads:

(b) where no flight attendant is on board, has been provided by the operator of the aircraft.
Though not a factor on a commercial flight, this was a problem when I was crew on a corporate Piper Cheyenne, and the people in the back brought booze aboard, and got terribly drunk, while we flew. The Captain and I declared that we served zero booze, we were flying. The drunken passengers asserted that they were the "operator", and as it was their corporate aircraft, that was a little hard to argue back at them. Ultimately, the wise corporation declared that people onboard were "working", and as such may not consume any alcohol, so it was banned entirely from the plane, though as said, but company policy, rather than regulation.
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Old 18th Mar 2019, 21:24
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Don't open airport bars until 11.00 to stall this sort of behaviour. Simple.
If the tattooed shorts-and-T-shirt-clad morons needs five pints of lager at 05;00, then they won't be fit to fly. They could be blocking my exit in an emergency, never mind causing anti-social cabin problems.
Not going to happen though, is it...
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Old 18th Mar 2019, 21:53
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Originally Posted by Pilot DAR View Post
I imagine that a flight attendant would refuse to handle or serve alcohol not owned by the airline.
To a first-class or business-class passenger? Of course she (or he) would not refuse. I fly bizjets and we have had customers who only want to drink certain types of Cognac that cost nearly 500 Euros a bottle. No airline serves this kind of stuff, not even in first class. So if they want to have it they will bring it themselves. Also in Canada.
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