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JanetFlight 31st Jul 2018 22:33

RYR evac @ BCN...is this for real!!???
 

Oh my God...this guy filming here instead of helping is just filming, talkin, "joking" and promoting Vueling!!!???

What the hell!!???? :ugh:

compressor stall 31st Jul 2018 22:36

Yes, but it's actually a good video for cabin crew training to promote some discussion!

FIRESYSOK 31st Jul 2018 22:55

where are the overwing pax?

HundredPercentPlease 31st Jul 2018 23:13

3 more videos here.

PAXboy 31st Jul 2018 23:41

In one of the Instagram clips it refers to the burning device as a portable charger. He says he put it out with water ...

Many lessons for crew in these clips.

UnofficialAirbusFan 31st Jul 2018 23:47

Have a look in this videos:
instagram.com/p/Bl5oF3tnGJ6/ [<<< nvm, this was already posted]
  1. A lithium battery fire should extinguish easily with a Halon extinguisher + water extinguisher.
  2. The panic over a simple small located fire is insane
  3. People are running over each other, slowing down everything thus making a simple situation even worse.
  4. Recording and emergency evacuation with your phone? Is this real?
  5. Weeeeeeeeee ?
No words.....

PAXboy 31st Jul 2018 23:57

Indeed TangoAlphad. Follow the link by HundredPercentPlease. They took me to Instagram and video of the device on fire. All nice and cheap. Like vaping devices on the market or online.

EcamSurprise 1st Aug 2018 02:41


There are quotes online from a passenger sitting in the front row who seems very proud of himself because ‘fortunately’ he opened the emergency door before the pilot had activated the slide..


22k 1st Aug 2018 02:51

Indeed, was this a command evac or not?

The fire would have had to have been pretty bad to command a proper evacuation vs getting the stairs I would’ve thought.

then again, the panic in the cabin may have been pretty high.

Mk 1 1st Aug 2018 05:04


Originally Posted by TangoAlphad (Post 10211486)
I take it back. In those videos there is a fair number of absolute idiots with bags.

I think they may be holding classes to 'improve' passenger bag performance - one bloke makes the jump with 2!

DaveReidUK 1st Aug 2018 07:18


Originally Posted by FIRESYSOK (Post 10211458)
where are the overwing pax?

Presumably getting as far away from the midships fire as they could, to the front and rear doors ? :O

The flight was inbound to BCN from Bilbao and running late, the outbound leg having been diverted from Santander.

Herod 1st Aug 2018 07:32

Are those videos of the same evacuation? The first one (apart from the idiot "starring") is almost textbook, with only the one passenger towards the end with bags. The others show the usual chaos. Perhaps the first one is actually a training film?

DaveReidUK 1st Aug 2018 08:38


Originally Posted by Herod (Post 10211688)
Are those videos of the same evacuation? The first one (apart from the idiot "starring") is almost textbook, with only the one passenger towards the end with bags. The others show the usual chaos. Perhaps the first one is actually a training film?

Stand markings are the same in both videos, sun is in an identical position ...

BBJ-Captain 1st Aug 2018 19:19

I find it amazing a full blown evacuation because of this. The fire was out before anyone has actually moved away from the area.
I wouldn't be surprised if the crew had not been able to get to the fire location to deal with it before panic had gone down the cabin and passengers had elected to evacuate themselves. Once the masses have decided the action they will take, the cabin crew would have been in it for the ride and simply had to manage the evacuation as it progressed.

With regards to people carrying bags as they went and more unbelievably making videos, words fail me. Life is about social media and kudos these days.

Skyjob 1st Aug 2018 19:45

Agreed with BBJ-Captain, especially as the location of burning device is not known, thus it takes only one passenger screaming "FIRE" or alike for this situation to occur.

There are quotes online from a passenger sitting in the front row who seems very proud of himself because ‘fortunately’ he opened the emergency door before the pilot had activated the slide..
The stupidity of passengers amazes me. Would he have done the same when in flight?

A lithium battery fire should extinguish easily with a Halon extinguisher + water extinguisher.
Agreed in flight, but on ground surely not for a device of this size...

In those videos there is a fair number of absolute idiots with bags.
And nothing the crew can do to stop them, as making them give up luggage at exit only slows evacuation down and creates a pileup of items in forward galley...

roybert 1st Aug 2018 20:52


Originally Posted by Skyjob (Post 10212223)
And nothing the crew can do to stop them, as making them give up luggage at exit only slows evacuation down and creates a pileup of items in forward galley...

In my view the only way to stop passenger from taking there carry on is to ban bringing anything larger than a Ladies purse into in the cabin. The only way this will happen is if the regulators around the world put regulation in place stopping the airlines from collection baggage fees.

Roybert

gearlever 1st Aug 2018 21:11

Any charges for the extra event?

DaveReidUK 1st Aug 2018 21:36


Originally Posted by BBJ-Captain (Post 10212204)
I wouldn't be surprised if the crew had not been able to get to the fire location to deal with it before panic had gone down the cabin and passengers had elected to evacuate themselves.

So if you drop your phone/charger and it bursts into flames at your feet, your advice is to stay put and wait for someone with a bucket of water or an extinguisher ?

In the event of a cabin fire on the ground, getting as far away as possible from it seems eminently sensible to me.

Bksmithca 2nd Aug 2018 02:48


Originally Posted by DaveReidUK (Post 10212283)
So if you drop your phone/charger and it bursts into flames at your feet, your advice is to stay put and wait for someone with a bucket of water or an extinguisher ?

In the event of a cabin fire on the ground, getting as far away as possible from it seems eminently sensible to me.

Dave, I don't believe that is what the captain was suggesting. I told to be that the masses trying to get out of the aircraft were blocking them from putting out the fire.

Bksmithca

Maninthebar 2nd Aug 2018 07:13


Originally Posted by Bksmithca (Post 10212379)
Dave, I don't believe that is what the captain was suggesting. I told to be that the masses trying to get out of the aircraft were blocking them from putting out the fire.

Bksmithca

Yes. And in a ground-based, civil situation that is EXACTLY what the fire service would attempt - evacuate, remove the people and then extinguish the fire. Remember that the decision to tell people to stay put in Grenfell was a) exceptional and the result of a specific fire risk assessment and b) turns out, apparently, to have been wrong (subject to the result of the enquiry)


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