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RYR evac @ BCN...is this for real!!???

Old 31st Jul 2018, 22:33
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RYR evac @ BCN...is this for real!!???


Oh my God...this guy filming here instead of helping is just filming, talkin, "joking" and promoting Vueling!!!???

What the hell!!????
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Old 31st Jul 2018, 22:36
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Yes, but it's actually a good video for cabin crew training to promote some discussion!
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Old 31st Jul 2018, 22:55
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where are the overwing pax?
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Old 31st Jul 2018, 23:13
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3 more videos here.
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Old 31st Jul 2018, 23:41
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In one of the Instagram clips it refers to the burning device as a portable charger. He says he put it out with water ...

Many lessons for crew in these clips.
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Old 31st Jul 2018, 23:47
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Have a look in this videos:
instagram.com/p/Bl5oF3tnGJ6/ [<<< nvm, this was already posted]
  1. A lithium battery fire should extinguish easily with a Halon extinguisher + water extinguisher.
  2. The panic over a simple small located fire is insane
  3. People are running over each other, slowing down everything thus making a simple situation even worse.
  4. Recording and emergency evacuation with your phone? Is this real?
  5. Weeeeeeeeee ?
No words.....

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Old 31st Jul 2018, 23:57
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Indeed TangoAlphad. Follow the link by HundredPercentPlease. They took me to Instagram and video of the device on fire. All nice and cheap. Like vaping devices on the market or online.
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Old 1st Aug 2018, 02:41
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There are quotes online from a passenger sitting in the front row who seems very proud of himself because ‘fortunately’ he opened the emergency door before the pilot had activated the slide..

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Old 1st Aug 2018, 02:51
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Indeed, was this a command evac or not?

The fire would have had to have been pretty bad to command a proper evacuation vs getting the stairs I would’ve thought.

then again, the panic in the cabin may have been pretty high.
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Old 1st Aug 2018, 05:04
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Originally Posted by TangoAlphad View Post
I take it back. In those videos there is a fair number of absolute idiots with bags.
I think they may be holding classes to 'improve' passenger bag performance - one bloke makes the jump with 2!
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Old 1st Aug 2018, 07:18
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Originally Posted by FIRESYSOK View Post
where are the overwing pax?
Presumably getting as far away from the midships fire as they could, to the front and rear doors ?

The flight was inbound to BCN from Bilbao and running late, the outbound leg having been diverted from Santander.
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Old 1st Aug 2018, 07:32
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Are those videos of the same evacuation? The first one (apart from the idiot "starring") is almost textbook, with only the one passenger towards the end with bags. The others show the usual chaos. Perhaps the first one is actually a training film?
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Old 1st Aug 2018, 08:38
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Originally Posted by Herod View Post
Are those videos of the same evacuation? The first one (apart from the idiot "starring") is almost textbook, with only the one passenger towards the end with bags. The others show the usual chaos. Perhaps the first one is actually a training film?
Stand markings are the same in both videos, sun is in an identical position ...
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Old 1st Aug 2018, 19:19
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I find it amazing a full blown evacuation because of this. The fire was out before anyone has actually moved away from the area.
I wouldn't be surprised if the crew had not been able to get to the fire location to deal with it before panic had gone down the cabin and passengers had elected to evacuate themselves. Once the masses have decided the action they will take, the cabin crew would have been in it for the ride and simply had to manage the evacuation as it progressed.

With regards to people carrying bags as they went and more unbelievably making videos, words fail me. Life is about social media and kudos these days.
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Old 1st Aug 2018, 19:45
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Agreed with BBJ-Captain, especially as the location of burning device is not known, thus it takes only one passenger screaming "FIRE" or alike for this situation to occur.
There are quotes online from a passenger sitting in the front row who seems very proud of himself because ‘fortunately’ he opened the emergency door before the pilot had activated the slide..
The stupidity of passengers amazes me. Would he have done the same when in flight?
A lithium battery fire should extinguish easily with a Halon extinguisher + water extinguisher.
Agreed in flight, but on ground surely not for a device of this size...
In those videos there is a fair number of absolute idiots with bags.
And nothing the crew can do to stop them, as making them give up luggage at exit only slows evacuation down and creates a pileup of items in forward galley...
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Old 1st Aug 2018, 20:52
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And nothing the crew can do to stop them, as making them give up luggage at exit only slows evacuation down and creates a pileup of items in forward galley...
In my view the only way to stop passenger from taking there carry on is to ban bringing anything larger than a Ladies purse into in the cabin. The only way this will happen is if the regulators around the world put regulation in place stopping the airlines from collection baggage fees.

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Any charges for the extra event?
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Old 1st Aug 2018, 21:36
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Originally Posted by BBJ-Captain View Post
I wouldn't be surprised if the crew had not been able to get to the fire location to deal with it before panic had gone down the cabin and passengers had elected to evacuate themselves.
So if you drop your phone/charger and it bursts into flames at your feet, your advice is to stay put and wait for someone with a bucket of water or an extinguisher ?

In the event of a cabin fire on the ground, getting as far away as possible from it seems eminently sensible to me.
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Originally Posted by DaveReidUK View Post
So if you drop your phone/charger and it bursts into flames at your feet, your advice is to stay put and wait for someone with a bucket of water or an extinguisher ?

In the event of a cabin fire on the ground, getting as far away as possible from it seems eminently sensible to me.
Dave, I don't believe that is what the captain was suggesting. I told to be that the masses trying to get out of the aircraft were blocking them from putting out the fire.

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Old 2nd Aug 2018, 07:13
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Originally Posted by Bksmithca View Post
Dave, I don't believe that is what the captain was suggesting. I told to be that the masses trying to get out of the aircraft were blocking them from putting out the fire.

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Yes. And in a ground-based, civil situation that is EXACTLY what the fire service would attempt - evacuate, remove the people and then extinguish the fire. Remember that the decision to tell people to stay put in Grenfell was a) exceptional and the result of a specific fire risk assessment and b) turns out, apparently, to have been wrong (subject to the result of the enquiry)
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