Does someone please have a link to the report if it is online?
AvHerald has a wealth of information but I would like the official report as well. Edit: The link on avherald does not work for me... |
I doubt 2500 hours of multi-pilot flying (assuming he got command shortly before the accident, which may not be true) is enough to be captain on an aircraft of this size and complexity. 2500 hours of monitoring an autopilot is cr@p. Judging from how content the crew was to live with INS errors, they were just taking things as they came and were not being proactive in getting their aircraft ready for an approach. Judging from the accident report, everyone at the airline had been taking things as they came and were not acting in a forward thinking mode. That is how you get hurt in aviation. |
Experience before type rating is not an issue, many airlines have been doing this for decades The current situation where line flying in jet transports is biased towards almost total automation - apart from the take off and short final approach to landing - and manual flying actively discouraged to a ridiculous degree, good quality handling experience is a most desirable aim for recruiters. And that doesn't mean in a simulator; but hands on in command instrument flying skills in IMC. |
And that doesn't mean in a simulator; but hands on in command instrument flying skills in IMC. |
Gentlemen, don't be so categorical. Too many dark stains in this accident. I wouldn't trust MAK at all after Irkutsk A310 investigation (clownery with sleeve of jacket)
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Originally Posted by Anvaldra
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I wouldn't trust MAK at all after Irkutsk A310 investigation (clownery with sleeve of jacket)
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14 pages document - "special opinion of rosaviation investigation member" exist. It published with final report.
Blaming mechanical problems |
Does someone please have a link to the report if it is online? AvHerald has a wealth of information but I would like the official report as well. Edit: The link on avherald does not work for me... The link on AVHerald works OK for me so I'd be happy to reupload it for you but just want to make sure you realise it's in russian. |
Can you read russian? I concluded that the report on avherald is some sort of unofficial translation of (at least parts of) the Russian report and just wish to have a copy of the original also. Thankyou very much in advance! |
@MrSnuggles: check your MPs in a moment.
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FDR Information
I have been trying to review this accident with regard to the use of pitch trim. Did MAK ever publish the FDR readout? If so, could someone point me to it please?
This accident, Flydubai 981, and Lionair JT 610, seem to share a common set of factors. Tks, Machinbird |
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vmandr, Thank you very much for the assistance. :ok:
It appears that MAK went to great lengths to validate the FDR data by running simulations of the flight using the recorded parameters. As difficult as it is to imagine, the pilot actually seems to have pushed the yoke sufficiently to create significant negative g, thus indicating a complete scan breakdown and flight control solely by kinesthetic senses. As such, this accident does not seem to match up with the Flydubai, and Lionair loss of control. |
The results from the simulalor tests scare me though. Seems no pilot was perfect (understandable) but a large percentage also did downright bad!
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The Jangling of spurs must have been deafening at Tartarstan. What a shambolic, lethal and corner cutting philosophy; no wonder accident rates in that part of the world are what they are. A go around should be second nature and always in your mind on an approach -stating the obvious sorry - but it seems the pilots tested in the sim found it stressful to the point of distress! I just hope I never find myself sitting behind pilots with that level of training, experience and ability.
There should be criminal charges for the airline management; those deaths were as a result of total negligence. |
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