Chu Chu, and AED won't defibrillate you if you are faking it. It only shocks when necessary and won't always deliver a shock on a collapsed person since there is not always fibrilliation present... (as I understand it)

Sky Wave, true, but was there not an accident of this nature when the T/O config warning failed to sound because pilots had been pulling the CB to stop the 'annoying' false alarm happening on ground? (Can't recall the airline at present but there was only one survivor- a child)

Imagine if something similar had happened- config warning not working, pilots miss a step in the c/l for whatever reason (it happens) and the guy getting up to call the crew was actually the last chance to stop the holes lining up- I'd certainly rather feel dumb and be delayed 5 min than be dead!

Unless they changed policy this last couple of years no Defibrilator carried on board Ryanair (not even a "pay -to- shock" version :rolleyes: ) so feign away on Air O' Leary.

Speaking of Regulators & the IAA in the same sentence is a bit of a contradiction, whatever FR have wanted, they have always received, with the sole exception of approval to take-off with ice on the upper surfaces in the specified area permitted by Boeing (or did they finally get that one ? ) .

Have you noticed how many "dodgy" looking aircraft operating in far flung countries for airlines you have never heard of have EI- *** registration.
Ireland is to commercial aviation what Panama was (still is ? ) to shipping, a "flag of convenience". . . . . I wonder why that would be ? :hmm:

Agree with Sky Wave regarding the flaps. On the 320 they are set from memory after engine start. Afterwards there is a whole set of procedures and flight control checks and taxi-ing before the point is reached where the crew check the flaps by..

-the take off config with a push button
-the checklist including the flap setting
-applying TO-power which again should automatically check the flaps

So the fact that they were doing flight control checks just tells me that they had not reached that point of checking yet. Sloppy? Yes. Drama? Not yet.

Never the less, I've been in your position where the crew taxied away without any flaps set and I was watching like a hawk!

CPS we were given clearance to T/O with frost in the box but it was later withdrawn and it is back to a clean wing procedure.

Paper bag got lost in the post. . . ? ;)

"Have you noticed how many "dodgy" looking aircraft operating in far flung countries for airlines you have never heard of have EI- *** registration.
Ireland is to commercial aviation what Panama was (still is ? ) to shipping, a "flag of convenience". . . . . I wonder why that would be ?"

Quite, and ironically started by Tony Ryan in another life.

Heard an Irish Minister crowing about this and saying they were looking at other 'opportunities'

It goes with the territory, Panama saw the opening a long time ago, Ireland is now in the business of being a low tax service industry hub. As such they join "The City" for example in offering light regulation environments for dubious activities. However, airframe registration should not be dubious.

On the other hand, if an slf had spotted no slats and flaps on the Spanair flight at Madrid, a lot of lives would have been saved.