AirPhilExpress 320 off the RWY...Video from Inside
 

Smooth Landing...RWY Wet, and a different ending.
No victims!

And now..., RFFS»»»they seem a "lil bit" in doubt of what should be done.???

Good, that "greaser" was almost within the touchdown zone, of the opposite threshold! :eek:
Also, is it just me or was that landing checklist done a bit late?:\
Luckily for everyone, the A320 has quite good breaks and there was these nice grass beyond that runway and not a big slope.

Nearly wet myself watching this! Thankfully all well. Waaaaay too fast and super deep.

Difficult to tell, but is that Flap Full? Looks like 3 to me. How long is the runway? Doesn't actually look that wet - you can see "dry" Tarmac during the rollout.

It'll all be in the report no doubt - just glad the only casualty is the crews blushes.

It looks like threshold crossing height was over 200 feet and I make the time from the crossing the end of the runway to touch down as 16 seconds. At 250 feet of runway per second that is 4000 feet :uhoh:

But hey what do you expect for your $ 69 fare :rolleyes:

Loving the cabin crew announcement about seatbelts about 5 seconds before touchdown...

Very late on the cabin warning and equally late on the touchdown too. As pointed out, nothing hurt but pride but it could have been nasty had there not been a nice green field to run off into.

Love the comment as they came to a stop on the 1st video (by the guy doing the filming I guess) "Nice Landing" :D indeed, but at the wrong end of the runway.
Lucky it wasn't on a.n.other runway or would have ended rather more dramatically.

Cannot believe the "prepare for landing" flightdeck announcement :=, nor the one from the C.C to the pax :rolleyes:, did anyone have their finger on the pulse here ?

Nothing other than reckless incompetence. Lucky for the passengers that there was soft grass for the last 300m of that "landing" and not a ravine. :eek:

Now, if that had been a Boeing the overrun wouldn't have happened.

Every member of staff, particuarly CEO and Chairman/Pres should presume that there will be someone filming Each and Every movement of their a/c and putting it online - possibly before they have even left the terminal building.

Accordingly, every carrier should appreciate this free lesson in 21st century Pax!! But I kinda think they won't like it. :rolleyes:

Not sure what your point is. If there is one. Useful information is always appreciated.

The runway at Kalibo airport where this happened is 7,545 feet long.

Just stiring the Boeing vs airbus thread. That's all.

I wonder if their brakes caught fire. You can see the CFR kind of heading towards the tires and then pointing at them. They really are lucky that there was some room at the end of the runway for them to come to a complete stop.

The late PA announcement is very telling. It shows that the flight crew were most likely very busy trying to salvage an approach that was obviously very unstable and therefore forgot their normal duties, i.e., the cabin PAs. I can't understand how cabin crew can't tell when landing gear is deployed and they should take the initiative to seat people. Had people still been standing, or in the lav makes your chances of surviving an overrun quite slim.

I guess you get what you pay for. LCCs in all of Asia are scraping the bottom of the barrel for air crews willing to work for peanuts, and this is the end result. You know that if a carrier is so tight on funds that corners must be getting cut everywhere.

Specifically not trying to go AvB with this comment, but, in the 727 and 737s I've been on I can always hear the binders working overtime when trying to come to a quick stop (groaning sound), was kind of surprised nothing was heard here, or was this crew still in Autobrake 1 (or Airbus equivelant)?

Also, a quick comparison to Google Earth shows roughly 2750 feet from the point of touchdown to the beginning of the overrun. Not sure what the demonstrated distance for the Airbus is so maybe someone could provide that.

Finally, assuming a deceleration rate of approximately 14 ft/s/s the touchdown speed works out to roughly 160 knots.

NOTE: Not trying to provide answers here, just some observations.

if ever there was a case for a go around...

Unbelievable!! :eek:

Unless the video doesn't show it, absolutely nothing from the CC when the plane left the tarmac. How did they know it wasn't going to go pear shaped- should at least have been some brace commands- if they knew what they were doing. Clearly into a 'non-normal' and still nothing. Hope at least there were some instructions to the pax... seems like they kept them sitting while fire dept wa assessing, but the amount of laughter/joking in the background is a bit concerning. It could indicate that things weren't being taken too seriously (by anyone) :oh:

This is The Philippines ... nothing should be taken too seriously. :)

At my little local airport they know precisely what to do with the fire engine, as the twice weekly ATR72 roars overhead on the inbound they start the engine, presumably, to charge the battery and, just occasionally, they'll take it for a short drive to perform a runway inspection with it!

A320 at MLW has demonstrated landing distance of approx 850m. This is of course with an Airbus hotshot at the controls with a new aircraft on a perfect day over the fence at Vapp at 50' with max manual braking.

So for Joe average line pilot with a slightly used Bus and non perfect technique I'd add a conservative 30% to that - minimum. Add a tailwind ..........

I know hindsight is 20/20 but seeing this and reading the Air Europa GCRR overrun why does this STILL continue to happen? There's enough history/evidence/documentation/articles out there to sink a battleship. You have to have a certain level of common sense/intelligence to get to the front of a jet these days (I know, I know pay To Fly....) so why do crews still think they can pull it off when it should be alarms bells ringing?

A4

Bad pilots, bad training, ****ty airline! :ugh:

This was as others have mentioned a clear case where a go around should have been performed. I am still shaking my head.

And any professional would know that it is completely impossible to judge landing speed via a camera poking out of a window, or any other way at all without instruments in front of you...

Sure doesn't look like flap Full though.

Incompetant Idiots, pure and simple.

Have a look at 35 secs into the clip and you will notice he has also landed with significant downwind which won't be helping his cause. Short runway too at 1800m.

Froze the frame at 0:35 and saw the windsock.
This is a fortunate outcome of a totally unnecessary event.

I guess some of you missed the little icon at the top of my post...that or you suffered a sense of humour failure.

Wonders of the World
 

The Philippinnes could be added to the Wonders of the World !!

I am wondering what else can happen there and when it happen I am not wondering anymore. Each Pinnoy a lovley Person as a individual and I will certainly miss my Visits at Subic, Angeles, Makati, Malate and Cebu now and then. I had a nice time and I always remember the warm heartet People there. When it comes to professionalism there was always a lack of understanding and taking things seriously the right way. The Video is reflecting that as well.

Afterwards we all know that a G/A would be the proper way of action. Why it was not done? I haven´t been there, I do not know any facts that caused this overrun. I cannot look into Pilots brain and get the undecorated truth.

This is just one bad example to the Public that Pilots are the weakest part of the chain. Interface between the plane and the pilot?

21st Century technology allows this evidence to go public short after the Mobile device has a connection again. Until the FDR is pulled and screened the "clicks" in the NET go into 6 digits....

Fly safe and land happy

NG

With regards to the comment about autobrakes if you watch the video carefully it appears that the deceleration rate increased significantly in the last few seconds of runway. I reckon another 300 ft and they would have got away with it albeit with some more-than-luke-warm brakes! Still an appalling landing though.

The cost of a go around probably comes out of their pockets.

....whilst the cost of not doing a go-around will cost them their careers! ;)

The boys up front were merely passengers as they departed the runway. It could just as easily been a steep ravine for all they seemed to care.

No third world airlines for me, thank you. Most of the first world carriers are bad enough as it is.

Spent a total of 5 years working at Manila international- witnessed more accidents, both fatal and funny, than in the rest of a forty year career.After being in the 1st Obs seat on many occasions during landing I came to the conclusion that Philippine pilots were more interested in a 'greaser' than where they actually put it down. They could make the smoothest touchdowns I have ever experienced but they were halfway down the runway. On one landing at Kai Tak we had full reverse and braking until we stopped on the piano keys. I could see the water getting closer and was working out whether I could get out of the overhead hatch before the f/e.In spite of that it was the best job I ever had and the crews were among the best. Lovely people to work with.

Agaricus,

Not completely impossible to judge speed, if you know time and assume (or know) a decel rate. The rate I used was 14ft/s/s, which is a reasonable deceleration rate, assuming maximum braking (I wasn't sure it was max anyway, was just making some observations).

Doors, thanks, that demonstrated distance works out to roughly 50 feet more than the runway they had remaining on touchdown.

Not just Phillipines. This is a lucky, lucky landing.

Appeared to be fast on final. First impression was that the camera speed was increased.

Windsock appears to be about 100-110 degrees off runway heading when ti first appears and changes to almost pure tailwind as the plane goes by.

Tailwind wasn't the problem. Aimpoint and airspeed.

:}
You see what happened there? Truely shocking!! When will people learn to turn off all electrical devices for take off and landing?! This is what happens people, this is what happens! Won't someone think of the children ... and orphans ... and orphaned baby bunnies!

I'll let myself out ...

JAS

What and lose "face"????? :=:=:=

I know you can't see the instruments but wow! The groundspeed certainly looked impressive as they shot past the threshold and stands.

Considering how far down the runway they actually touched down, the overrun wasn't too bad. What was going through these peoples' minds to carry on like this? (Nothing, I know...) :ouch:

Is this a joke?
 

Am I the only one who finds this video almost comical?

Pilot makes the PA at one or two hundred feet.

FA makes PA during the flare

Pilot lands well down the runway, with a tailwind

Camera man says it was a nice landing (sarcasm?)

Thankfully nobody was hurt, but the incompetence shown in this video actually gave me a chuckle.

Hope I don't ever have to fly behind one of those guys though.

If I was one of the investigators who was dealing with this incident, I would be asking to see a copy of this video taken by mobile phone. It shows a complete lack of any decision making by the Flight Crew in a seriously dangerous situation.To fast, to high on the approach, no provision for TOGA and no announcement of an overrun tp assengers or CC.

The cabin crew are not exhonerated from any blame either as their emergency drills and operations should have started once they knew that the aircraft was about to depart the active runway.

This was sheer luck nothing more nothing less....