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Yemeni Aircraft Bomb Plot Foiled
BBC News - Cargo planes grounded in US security scare
Several cargo planes have been grounded at separate US airports as authorities investigate suspicious packages, the Transportation Security Administration has said. BBC news now saying 2 aircraft in UK also being looked at. One at EMA Correction, EMA now just being the distribution centre not aircraft. Edit: now all related to UPS. Statement from UPS confirming suspicious packages are being investigated. Philadelphia, Newark and Chicago now have A/C in "containment areas" (Reuters) Reuters: First suspicious package found this morning at 0330 (GMT) in EMA. [sic] only took them half a day to take action..... |
Willy Walsh calls for reduction of aviation security this morning, America responds immediately, that's an obvious conspiracy theory.
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(AP) linked to Yemen and a dodgy printer cartridge. (Tenuous at best)
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We are given to understand that a suspicious package was examined during a fuel stop at EMA and found to be harmless. The aircraft continued on it's way.
Under-reaction by the UK or over-reaction by the US. Can't both be right :ugh: No prizes !!! |
There seems to be some confusion in the US Media about whether EMA is in Birmingham or London ... :rolleyes:
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CNN
...and who is this "talking head" knitwit gushing on CNN right now?....the difference between "commercial" and "freight" appears to be lost on him.
CNN suck.:yuk: |
There appears to be some confusion ...
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Bloody BBC, can casually describe B757 as a B737...they should not let dolts report on aviation matters. On again, off again, on again alert, although if I got an envelope from Yemen, I would worry.
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On 3rd September, a UPS 747 crashes in flames after taking off from DXB. Very little is reported on any of the media networks. The cause is, as yet, unknown. On 29th October, a device is allegedly found at a freight terminal at East Midlands Airport (EMA), and the news media on both sides of the Atlantic go into meltdown.:confused:
For the benefit of those in the US, EMA is about 120 miles north of London. |
EMA, London...what's the difference? Ryanair thinks Girona is actually Barcelona, and Hahn is Frankfurt.
Do carry on with the US bashing though, will be interesting how far deep in the gutter this gets before it heads to JB. |
Do carry on with the US bashing though To continue... |
On 3rd September, a UPS 747 crashes in flames after taking off from DXB. Very little is reported on any of the media networks. The cause is, as yet, unknown. On 29th October, a device is allegedly found at a freight terminal at East Midlands Airport (EMA), and the news media on both sides of the Atlantic go into meltdown. For the benefit of those in the US, EMA is about 120 miles north of London. It does not look very good |
well said
well said barry lloyd.:D:D:D:D:D
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Have to say that the DXB recent crash was the first thing that came to mind following this threat. Still no news about the cause.
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The "potentially suspicious" package is being reported as a modified printer toner cartridge with wires attached...
Suspicious packages prompt US and UK terror alerts - Americas, World - The Independent := |
Whomsoever is behind this little pantomime is doing a great job. (limit not your choices)
The worldwide media is all over it like a rash and the spin-off circumstances are brewing just nicely. The spread of terrorism is spread by whom exactly ??? |
I'm off to re-read The Fourth Protocol. Is it all coming true?
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Do carry on with the US bashing though, will be interesting how far deep in the gutter this gets before it heads to JB. :hmm: |
I suppose I shouldn't mention what's happening next Tuesday then ? Funny that was first thought and second was statement by Walsh of BA yesterday. |
It was with shaking hands and a sweaty brow that I examined my printer after receiving the distressing news today. Imagine my terror when I discovered not one but FIVE printer cartridges all with wires AND a circuit board attached to them.
I have now locked myself in the basement awaiting the arrival of the bomb squad. I am scared I tell ya, scared! |
US Presidents brief was interesting ! - wasn't expecting that - seems initial info was wrong.
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The close-up of the circuit board photo doing the rounds looks suspiciously like a mobile phone circuit to my eyes. You can even see what looks like the 'phone's camera on the top right.
http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2010/US/...go.update2.jpg |
Obama: Terror explosives found, bound for US
AP reports:
Obama: Terror explosives found, bound for US Eileen Sullivan And Matt Apuzzo, Associated Press WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama declared Friday that authorities had uncovered a "credible terrorist threat" against the United States following the overseas discovery of U.S.-bound packages containing explosives aboard cargo jets. Obama said both had been addressed to Jewish organizations in the Chicago area. The disclosures triggered a worldwide alert amid fears that al-Qaida was attempting to carry out fresh terror attacks. The events "underscore the necessity of remaining vigilant against terrorism," the president said. The packages both originated in Yemen, but Obama did not explicitly assign blame to al-Qaida, which is active in the Arab nation and long has made clear its goal of attacking the United States. The events unfolded four days before national elections in which discussion of terrorism has played almost no role. Obama stepped to the podium in the hours after officials disclosed that authorities in Dubai intercepted an explosive device bound for a Chicago-area Jewish institution. The second package was aboard a plane searched in England, and officials said it contained a printer toner cartridge with wires and powder. That second package was aboard a plane in East Midlands, north of London. Obama did not identify any institution that had been targeted. Several other cargo planes at airports along the Eastern Seaboard of the United States also were searched, and officials said no explosives were found. An Emirates Airlines passenger jet carrying cargo from Yemen was escorted from the Canadian border to New York City by two military fighter jets, U.S. officials said. They said it was a precautionary action. An FBI spokesman in Chicago, Ross Rice, said both suspicious packages had been sent from the same address in Yemen. The president refrained from assigning blame to Yemen's al-Qaida branch, but officials who spoke on condition of anonymity said they were increasingly certain that was the source. The same group was responsible for the attempted bombing of a U.S.-bound airliner last Christmas. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity, citing the ongoing investigation. White House counterterrorism adviser John Brennan later told reporters that the explosives "were in a form that was designed to try to carry out some type of attack," but he provided no further details. "The forensic analysis is under way," he said, adding, "Clearly from the initial observation, the initial analysis that was done, the materials that were found in the device that was uncovered was intended to do harm." |
"There appears to be some confusion ...
as to whether anything exists outside of the USA ... YouTube - U.S. Shocked Andorra Not In Africa" Teddy Robinson, are you utterly unaware that the on-line news site The Onion and its YouTube adjunct Onion News Network are totally satirical humor media??? IT'S A JOKE. That you apparently didn't get. |
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Bomb Found on UPS Plane in London, Other Jets Searched in Newark, Philadelphia | NYCAviation.com | Airplane Photos, Airline News, Planespotting Guides |
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Will end up as non event .. but good for make grow fear in the public and justify a up (one more time) of the security checks at airports...... :sad: |
Yay! More excuse to practice my grab-ankles-and-say-please move...
I suppose I shouldn't mention what's happening next Tuesday then ? |
There seems to be some confusion in the US Media about whether EMA is in Birmingham or London |
Both wrong - try again. |
I can confirm (at the moment) that one of the mentioned a/c in EMA was one of our Star Air B767 coming from CGN to EMA scheduled to continue to EDI. I guess we often have load for the UPS Philadelphia Flight standing next to us. a/c was evacuated, searched and grounded the whole day.
I heard even more but cannot confirm these information yet. |
Stepwilk ..
thank you for pointing that out :rolleyes:
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An FBI spokesman in Chicago, Ross Rice, said both suspicious packages had been sent from the same address in Yemen White House counterterrorism adviser John Brennan later told reporters that the explosives "were in a form that was designed to try to carry out some type of attack," but he provided no further details. When are the national elections:oh: Watch "Wag the Dog" with Robert de Niro...... . |
I don't mean this to sound like yet another 'conspiracy theory'... but.....
given the crash in Dubai, and the subsequent discussion re: screening of cargo/parcels/freight, and the fact that (from what I read) these threats seem to have been targeted at UPS... discussions here about lack of safety precautions and provisions for freighters, value of airline lives vs cargo.. etc etc etc could this be 'someone's' (an interested party, whether an indiviual or other) way of drawing attention to the gaps in 'security' in this section of aviation?? I.e. not a 'real' threat as in intended to cause any crashes, BUT- looks real enough to make people sit up and take notice? Makes me wonder.... (ok you might think I'm crazy but this is the thought that crossed my mind when I first heard of this) |
you cant throw away a boomerang
"From the very beginning, there has been speculation that the attacks were carried out by a biodefense zealot who wanted to prove that bioterrorism was a serious problem," says Epstein (Info on the plot was revealed by our Middle East Ally, Saudi Arabia - ensuring that plot only caused fear, not damage) |
For the benefit of those in the US, EMA is about 120 miles north of London. |
EMA is at the Centre of the Universe, well that was my theory and it certainly is now. So the package goes Yemen - Dubai on a feeder, DXB-CGN on a UPS 747 (linking perhaps to the recent crash that didnt even make the front pages), CGN-EMA on another aircraft (Star 767 or UPS 767) to link with a EMA-PHL UPS flight that normally departs around 0400.
Personally i'm more concerned about the 747 crash, obviously for the loss of life, now a little bit more on what set off the onboard fire. :\ |
I suppose those suspicious 'packages' got through any so called ' security ' checks or protocols for cargo aircraft, just like the " Shoe Bomber " and the Pyrotechnic Underpant Nutter ?
Shall I say it again ? Repeat after me.......... The Bad Guys Will Do Whatever They Want Whenever They Want To The Bad Guys Will Do Whatever They Want Whenever They Want To etc ........ So why do we, and in particular operating crew, put up with all the :mad: about at airports ? Total waste of time. |
What confuses me is that why an item which was discovered, removed and examined in the UK and reported as being "sinister looking but harmless" turns out to be an explosive device, when Obama starts his little spout.
Are we looking at limited release of information by UK authorities for operational reasons, or something else entirely !! It all plays directly into the hands of those who detect an odd smell here ! |
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