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SR71 30th Sep 2010 09:56

Brilliant news and all the best for the future.

4 engines or 2?

;)

Bruce Wayne 30th Sep 2010 10:33

Peter,

Congratulations in being able to continue the career that you have trained and worked to achieve.

As others have mentioned, the capacity to think outside of the box in high pressure situations, allowing the recovery of a bad situation is indeed what the professional aspect of the profession is about.

Furthermore your actions in managing a bad situation have gone have resulted in updating procedures and training. Having your actions as the basis for updating abnormal procedures in high stress, critical event is perhaps the most flattering example of your professional skills that could be achieved.

Following your 'blog' it has proved disheartening and anger inducing that such skills and professionalism was not welcomed by alternative employers. It seriously makes me wonder as to the direction of the industry as whole in this country.

In a similar situation I wonder if 'Sullenberger' would have not experienced such animosity to employment with alternative carriers following his actions in managing a critical situation; Moreover, perhaps the capacity to capitalize on employing such a figure would have been exploited.

We really need to consider the future of professionalism in the industry here in the UK.

Once again, congratulations on recommencing your flight deck career and to all those who recognize and place value on professional capabilities in this industry.

Love_joy 30th Sep 2010 10:57

I for one, am delighted that Peter is returning to BA.

The aftermath of this accident was an embarrassment to the industry, and a true example of what not to do.

If any good is to come from this, I hope the support processes from within airlines, the authorities and the union sharpen up.

Pete, best of luck mate! :ok:

Iain Wilson 30th Sep 2010 11:09

Delighted to hear Captain Peter Burkhill`s great news. In my view, the only appropriate and decent outcome.
Very best wishes to Peter, his family and colleagues.
Iain

The Green Goblin 30th Sep 2010 11:47

Congrats Captain Burkill,

It was devastating hearing what happened to you. I am glad commonsense (which is not so common) has finally prevailed.

See you up there!

GG

go around flaps15 30th Sep 2010 13:19

Fantastic news. Great to see common sense prevailed. Great to see you joining us in the skys again.

Stierado 30th Sep 2010 14:21

Congratulations to Captain Burkill !!!

Think this is great news and he deserves to come back.

Wish him all the best !!! :D:D:D

Tamazi 30th Sep 2010 14:35

Capt Burkill to re-join BA
 
Good show. Well done Sir.

Mr Angry from Purley 30th Sep 2010 15:59

Well done BA and a well done to Balpa if they assisted. Hope lessons can be learned and shame on those airlines that turned his services done in the meantime :\

TIMA9X 30th Sep 2010 16:22

It makes my day to hear this wonderful news, to Peter and all involved at BA for making it happen. A positive outcome for a great pilot and his airline. I wish you well Captain Birkell.:D

Tima9x

RB311 30th Sep 2010 16:22

Congratulations Peter, have followed your story from the beginning, read your book and delighted for you.

xsbank 30th Sep 2010 16:30

Congratulations, and I don't even work for BA!

See Toto, sometimes there are happy endings!

Bellerophon 30th Sep 2010 16:40

Peter,

Many congratulations - from one of the 78ers who left on the same day as you - on a well deserved return to BA, and all best wishes for your future career in BA.

I'm sure that the pilots in BA will welcome your return, and see this for what it is, a rare outbreak of common sense prevailing in an overly process driven airline.

And for their assistance in enabling this to happen, our thanks should go not only to the BALPA reps involved but also to the senior BA managers who authorised it.

Best Regards

Bellerophon

Nerik 30th Sep 2010 16:45

Back where he belongs! Well done Pete. All the best for the future!

Rockhound 30th Sep 2010 17:05

I should think so...although I hardly think BA deserves to have Pete back on the roster, after the way they treated him. It's lucky for them that he seems to sincerely want to rejoin them. To think that he might have ended up as a publican or an ambulance driver, ideas he toyed with...
All good fortune to Pete and his family!
Rockhound

finfly1 30th Sep 2010 17:30

Wonderful news which gladdened the heart of an slf from across the pond!

ws737 30th Sep 2010 17:34

Congratulations Peter..I've been following this from Canada and I was sickened when your story unfolded the way it did. Obviously none of this should have happened. It must feel great to return to flying status. I can only imagine what you have endured the past few years.

TopBunk 30th Sep 2010 17:36

Peter

As with Bellerophon, as you know I am also a fellow 78er, and would like to congratulate you and your famlly on the outcome.

Also to recognise the very senior management in BA together with B & M from BALPA who have played a major part in achieving what many probably considered the immpossible.

Go back to BA and enjoy the rest of your career safe in the knowledge that you have the support of every right thinking person.

ehwatezedoing 30th Sep 2010 17:49

Pete,

I do not know you, I don't work for BA but I truly hated the outcome of your personal story.....
Until I read this fantastic news of you coming back 'on line'

This is just great for yourself and your family!



Now about British Airways F/A's Union..... I would hope it at list smacked some in the back of their head :rolleyes:

411A 30th Sep 2010 18:35


Now about British Airways F/A's Union..... I would hope it at list smacked some in the back of their head
I expect it made little impact...as they have their own distorted agenda.
IF I was WW, I would have fired the lot, and hired anew.
Poste haste.

G-BHZO 30th Sep 2010 18:53

Congratulations from a mere PPL who bought the book a couple of months ago.

Great news for all concerned.

Kiltrash 30th Sep 2010 19:06

Memo to Queen

MBE for the Captain??

Now the faceless ones have agreed that you and your team did no wrong and saved everyone

Hope be a pax on your plane

Best wishes:D

james brown 30th Sep 2010 19:19

Best wishes :D

British Grenadier 30th Sep 2010 19:29

Welcome back Skipper , Bravo :D:D:D

DB64 30th Sep 2010 20:01

Fantastic news
 
The bureaucrats finally got it......great news in a world of too many pen pushers where rules have taken over sense and intelligence.

DozyWannabe 30th Sep 2010 21:47

Congratulations Sir, and I hope returning to the position that gave you so much pride and happiness turns out to be all you hope it can be.

Personally, I think that the book that you and your wife wrote should become required course reading for HR and management training across the board, being a cautionary tale for how prolonged success can be just as corrosive as failure when it comes to organisational complacency.

sierratangomike 1st Oct 2010 09:42

This SLF is delighted. Hope to be on one of your flights soon :ok:

korrol 1st Oct 2010 10:32

Congratulations
 
I've supported Captain Burkill ever since I read his account of the accident. His long experience on the 777 gave him , like many other high-time pilots, a seat-of-the pants awareness of "draggy feel" of the aircraft.
I hope this has taught the "whisperers" a lesson. PB was - in effect - bullied out of his job, not by the company, but by the malicious rumour mill within BA. The stress of being on the receiving end of all that must have been terrible and, it goes without saying, totally undeserved.

toro 1st Oct 2010 11:10

Korrol,

you make a very good point. No one in Flight ops have I heard in anyway criticise Capt Burkill, and that included Management. The vindictive/malicious/pettiness that comes from a very specific section of BA employees is appaling and clearly got a lot worse in recent months. I sincerely hope it will improve soon.

I haven't as yet met any of the guys involved in BA38 but be assured from their fellow pilot colleagues they will not be buying their own beers downroute.

togsdragracing 1st Oct 2010 11:16

Peter: This SLF says that BA should have begged you to stay, or they should have begged you to come back. I'm 46 years old and I thought I was too old and too cynical to have heroes...then along you came with your 777. Great news; here's to many more years of flying and hopefully having the privilege of sitting in a cabin behind you one day.

Sallyann1234 1st Oct 2010 12:22

Seniority List
 
If there is one for Honours Capt Burkill should certainly be way above the usual footballers/fashion designers/soap stars.


Memo to Queen

MBE for the Captain

tanimbar 1st Oct 2010 12:36

Simple words, well meant .....
 
"Bloody marvellous".

Regards, Tanimbar

Flexable 1st Oct 2010 13:11

To BALPA and BA management who made the decision to reinstate Captain Burkill: Congratulation , job well done. :D

Dave's brother 1st Oct 2010 13:13

Amazing!
 
I've never seen so many Ppruners peacefully agreeing with each other! What a wonderful side-effect arising out of great news!:D

Trinity 09L 1st Oct 2010 20:51

Congratulations
 
If only we could hear a PA, this is your Captain "Welcome aboard Burkill Airways" :)




The BEM gong is appropriate

Sick Squid 1st Oct 2010 22:17

There are three major players behind the scenes in this; from BALPA, the BACC Chairman and the lead Postings and Promotions rep (not naming them, but B and M come to mind as posted before,) and the third is Willie Walsh himself. The decision came from the very top, as I am hearing it. Well done BALPA and kudos to Willie Walsh for looking out for someone who is, after all, a fellow pilot.

It should be highlighted that this indeed came to pass through the offices of BALPA acting with the unanimous will of the British Airways membership, and the active, and proactive support of the CEO. Well done to all.

Pete, great to have you back where you belong. I'd put my family behind you any day. Respect, from the other copilot (Captain now on another fleet, but you know that) on a heavy trip we did many, many moons ago when we were both copilots on the triple :)

I've never been so happy to drop one place on the seniority list! Back to where I should be. :D

Welcome back, Pete! See you down the traps soon, I hope....

Squid

Pitch Up Authority 2nd Oct 2010 17:50

A crucial question that has never been answered
 
A crucial question that has never been answered is the following.

Irrespective of the problems caused by the fuel and its associated systems is the fact that the B 777 may have been outside the enviromental envelope.

This envelope is part of the limitations and certification and needs to be respected a all times.

Landroger 2nd Oct 2010 18:12

Pitch up authority
 

A crucial question that has never been answered is the following.

Irrespective of the problems caused by the fuel and its associated systems is the fact that the B 777 may have been outside the enviromental envelope.

This envelope is part of the limitations and certification and needs to be respected a all times.
That'll need a bit of clarification. :uhoh: I have wondered for some time when - and if - the definitive cause of BA038s loss of thrust response will be decided, because I don't think it has, yet. None of which, it seems to me, has anything to do with Captain Burkhill, who dealt with the consequences of the failure. :)

Roger.

Prober 2nd Oct 2010 19:01

Environmental Envelope
 
Many years ago I went to FRA one afternoon on a B757. En route I noted the OAT as -70 something which, on checking with the miniature Limitations chart, seemed to be one or two degrees outside the environmental envelope. I took advantage of the turnround to visit the wonderful (then) new multi million POUND met HQ. There I was informed, in no uncertain tones, that they had sent a sonde aloft from Paris at 0600 that morning and the temperature at that Flight Level IS -66, so your aeroplane is wrong!:ugh::ugh: I thanked him very much for his help and returned home, still showing -73/4 (whatever).

Coireall 2nd Oct 2010 20:33

Simply wonderful news
 
Peter,
I am delighted that my former employer has seen the light and welcomed you back into the fold. I was extremely moved by your story and very embarassed that your flight crew managers so demonstrably failed in their duity of care to you.
Enjoy the flying the Tripple again and hold your head high. You deserve it ...and big time.
Ceejay


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