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Old 29th Sep 2010, 08:48
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Capt Burkill to re-join BA

From todays Independent.

Hero pilot to rejoin British Airways - Home News, UK - The Independent

I hope it is true.
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Old 29th Sep 2010, 09:09
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What about his seniority?
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I do not know this chap at all

and I am not a pilot but am industry on the ground.

I have no doubt at all that the actions of the Crew saved the hull and pax from a very nasty prang. fair play to both of the guys at the sharp end and the boys and girls in the cabin.

Is my track of this one correct?

Capt took VR from BA?

Capt posted response on PPrune stating wife has to work 2 days a week? as he could not find work as a B777 driver?

Capt and wife #3 wrote book?

#3 left

Money ran out?

Now back at BA?

I gess here, SFO upgrades knocked back by one?
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Just proves some clouds do actually have silver linings. Good on both BA and Capt. Burkill.
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If he gets back his old seniority position then surely all the pilots' contracts have been contravened, and seniority has been made a mockery, hero or not.
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As a Nigel who was/is junior to Captain Burkill, I have no problem with him resuming his previous seat, even if my seniority drops by one place.

IMHO, his judgement was clouded (for what I would hope are obvious reasons!) when he made the decision to leave. I believe common sense has prevailed.
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Old 29th Sep 2010, 10:22
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If you leave a seniority list that's it. You cant just say sorry that was a bad idea and come back, otherwise where would it all end?
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I'm very pleased that he is rejoining BA.

He seemed to have got a lot of 'stick' from his colleagues which obviously got him down and he felt he had to leave BA.

Well done to BA for letting him back, a happy ending at last and shame to the BA colleagues who slagged him off.
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If you leave a seniority list that's it. You cant just say sorry that was a bad idea and come back, otherwise where would it all end?
With a very particular set of circumstances with both parties realising it could have been handled better? Wise men allow exceptions to even good rules, which are for guidance rather than prisons for men.

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Hear hear - the man was responsible for saving over 150 lives due to an incident which arose through no fault of his own (or of his FO).

I am delighted he has been re-instated in his old position and at his old seniority level and wish him the very best for his future career with BA.
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Awaiting the arrival of 411A
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Old 29th Sep 2010, 10:51
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If you leave a seniority list that's it. You cant just say sorry that was a bad idea and come back, otherwise where would it all end
Tricky one this, do you make an exception in this case or do you have to consider applications for remployment from everyone who took voluntary redundancy and is now regretting the decision.

That said the circumstances of Pete's departure were somewhat exceptional and I have a lot of sympathy for him, I'm another one who believe's Pete's judgement was clouded by the things that happened and things that were said at BA in the aftermath of the accident.
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Other people will be able to confirm this with greater knowledge than I but many years ago when BEA HR was called Mr Stephenson and flight managers had some authority a fairly newly promoted Trident captain ( Howard ******? ) went downhill and eventually became a "down and out". He lost his wife and family. Then one of the company doctors became aware of this chap, realised he was suffering from an affliction which could be treated, and dealt with him. He recovered and was re- instated after being sick for a couple of years. Don't know about his "dragon" though. Also, although the contract specified a maximum sick leave of six months flight management authorised extensions in some cases. One guy I know was on full pay for a year and then on half pay for a further few months until he regained his medical category. It may have cost the airline a few quid but the effect on morale was worth it and we even stopped slagging off the flight manager for a short time.
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There is a precedent for this already. One of our SFO's returned after overcoming a medical problem - he was away for a number of years. Everybody was pleased to see him back and the "loss" of a single place didn't upset too many.

I lost 330 places just after joining BA - but that's another story.........
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Am pleased to hear this news. In this case, I say b****r the seniority list! Difference between doing "things right" (aka management) and doing "the right thing" (leadership) - BA have shown leadership, in my opinion.
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I am delighted for Peter.

The immense stress that he was under after this incident has been recognised and he has been vindicated by the AAIB report.

I am really chuffed for him. One place of seniority doesn't matter. Or it shouldn't.

Just think how you'd like to be treated in the same circumstances............
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Well done to the two senior BALPA reps who have massively influenced this.

You know who you are and well done to both of you.

Happy to lose a place on the list for Peter.
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Well done Peter - and also BA for showing some compassion.
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Great news! ! nice to hear that BALPA achieved something positive too, although I think taking someone out for a curry & a few beers also fell into this category
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Brilliant.

Deserved and appropriate

Best of Luck to Peter and his family
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