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Thats how its always been. and i am afraid it will carry on for a long time unless lots of things change.
its the airline i always wanted to fly for since i was a kid. but i dont think i will ever go there. my brother worked there and when they have a technical problem they tell them GO AND GOD WILL LOOK AFTER YOU!!!!!!! and the captains never say no if they know there is a night stop and extra money. can't wait to see how the new airport is gonna be like. not like the current one i hope. this crash is a bad one. my heart goes out to all the people that lost someone. reverse thrust problem may be?????? we will have to wait and see. the airline is already in trouble and now they lost an aircraft god knows whats gonna happen. |
Indeed, very sad for all involved and the families too.
Not had much time to read up all posts, but any news on the crew? |
Washington Post: "all but one of the crew ... found alive."
any news on the crew? See http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...1100411_2.html |
Speculation
That is the problem with crashes, the amount of reports filed and the 'perceived' causes, is cause for concern.
Latest is, to high an approach caused the break-up. Sad though, regardless. :( |
sudan crash
Reuter have a pic this morning showing the port u/carriage (extended) and the port engine (intact on the wing) the wheels up to the axles in sand and grass......taxying to a stand would not appear to be the case??? such a loss to all concerned.........
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On a side note, what kind of wx reporting standard they use there?
HSSS 101900Z 14007KT 9/9 FEW050 CB TS TOE SCT056 30/19 Q1010 NOSIG= What's 9/9 ? Visibility I guess but in what unit? And "TOE" ? :confused::confused: |
In another METAR same day TOE is shown as TO E and I think this is to the East. i.e. Thunderstorms to the East of the airfield.
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History of LN 548
Aircraft entered service with SIA in 1990 as 9V-STU.
http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.p...136331&nseq=31 Served with Air India from 2001 to 2007, as VT-EVF. http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=284636&nseq=5 Entered service with ST in Sept 2007. Flight Intl reports that acft had approx. 52,000h and 21,000 cycles. |
Latest news and some interesting details emerge, see:
http://www.aero.de/Sudan_Airways_Air...ueckt_6634.htm RIP live 2 fly 2 live |
Engine ingestion of PAPI/VASI or other lights?
AP story I'm reading right now quotes PX to the effect that the plane touched down, and then veered to the right "as though the wing hit something" at the same time the engine erupted in fire.
Could have drifted in wind - could have made a wrong turn in the sandstorm(?). At any rate the engine came in contact with and swallowed something that didn't agree with it. Or so it sounds to me based on the reported facts to date. |
at the risk of speculating before all the facts are out, just have one comment -
Don't take the clearance to taxi statement too literally. Its very common in KRT for the tower to issue a taxi clearance while you are still high speed on the landing roll. |
dinns
Has anyone seen a crew list?
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I quote from the Allgemeine Zeitung in Namibia (translated):
It apparently happened just after the landing after the critical phase of a landing was over. This is what Jusuf Ibrahim, chief executive of Khartoum Airport, where the latest airline accident on African soil occurred, insists. According to Ibrahim, the Airbus A310 of Sudan Airways landed at Khartoum after a severe sandstorm without any major problems. As the pilots were in contact with the tower about their parking position, the right turbine exploded. Within minutes the flames had spread across the wing, the front of the plane and to the cockpit. However, other eye witnesses report that the landing of the to Port Sudan diverted flight was extremely hard. This could have led to, in opinion of several flight experts, several cylinders (??) bursting and causing an explosion. There was much confusion yesterday as to how many passengers burned to death on the plane. After initial reports of over half of the 210 passengers on board escaping by using escape slides, the authorities in Khartoum spoke of 30 deceased. The reason for this radically revised number is apparently that many passengers fled the burning wreck into the night. The fate of 15 passengers is still unclear. The article expands on how the sky in Africa is becoming more dangerous (but that's irrelevant to this discussion). |
Khartoum
I spent a year flying Comets out of Khartoum, judging by the comments there hasnt been much improvement.
...My first thoughts are,,,,,, 2 man crew, long working day extended by diversions and go arounds, pretty difficult landing, maybe hot and long , maximum braking, wheel fire with tyre bursts while taxying........what is the brake temp indication on the Airbus? |
Some up close and personal pictures at this link:-
http://www.flickr.com/photos/8680541@N04/page3/ (Sorry if these have already been shown via different links above - I haven't read them all.) |
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"off-piste" or off taxyway? By all accounts they were following taxi instructions after landing when N0.2 blew up. Not having operated into Khartoum but imagine there would be plenty of sand adjacent to the taxyways.
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what is the brake temp indication on the Airbus |
With the help of a pilot, who was "caught" in Khartoum after the crash, The Aviation Herald could determine the exact position of the wreckage and get additional pictures of the site:
http://avherald.com/h?article=408093a8/0002 Servus, Simon |
From the pictures, it looks like the crashed aircraft did indeed have brake fans.
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