Crash landing in KRT- Khartoum, Sudan
CNN reports crash landing in Khartoum -KRT.
First pictures show a narrow body or smaller wide body on fire on/ near runway. CNN claims up to 180 people on board. Could not identify the tail/ airline but it is for sure not QR / EK. God bless |
plane veered off the rwy after ldg.most of people could escape,acc to CNN
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Al Jazeera now reporting that a Sudan Airways acft caught fire after landing; Channel 4 news (reporting Al-J story) reported about 200 on board.
Presumably A300-600 - only acft ST would have of this capacity? |
CNN International here in Berlin says plane overshot runway on landing, supposedly many are believed dead. Plane was reportedly arriving from Amman, Jordan. Live photos show hull completely ablaze. About 180 reported aboard, have not heard aircraft type announced.
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Acft was indeed A310; operating flight from AMM. Only one A310 (ST-AST, -322 model) operated by ST (and three A300-600s).
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Sudan...ext_id=0938499 |
Yes the winglets indicate A310 or A300 it can not be an A330.
Sudan Airways operates 3 A300-600 and 1 A310 however it is unclear if it is a Sudan Airways plane. |
Sudan Tribune with painful news:
more than 100 fatalities. 203 + 14 o/b http://www.sudantribune.com/spip.php?article27471 |
very bad wx indeed with heavy rain
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on TV,and the tail looks like grey colour on the top and white on the belly
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Looks like a A310. There seem to be no markings on the tail, so it could be ST-ATN:
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Hsss/krt Khartoum
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re:crash
Al-Jazeera television station said it was a Sudan Airways passenger jet, and Najib confirmed the plane was from a Sudanese airline. Video showed emergency escape chutes deployed at the side of the aircraft.
Spokesmen for the Federal Aviation Administration and the National Transportation Safety Board in Washington could not immediately provide any details of the incident on Tuesday afternoon, but said they were continuing to monitor the situation. Sudan has a poor aviation safety record. In May, a plane crash in a remote area of southern Sudan killed 24 people, including key members of the southern Sudanese government. In July 2003, a Sudan Airways Boeing 737 en route from Port Sudan to Khartoum crashed soon after takeoff, killing all 115 people on board. After that crash, Sudanese officials blamed sanctions for restricting vital aircraft parts. The U.S. State Department said there was no ban on equipment needed for aviation safety. In 1997, then President Clinton issued an executive order barring the export of goods and technology to Sudan because of the country's "support for international terrorism, ongoing efforts to destabilize neighboring governments, and the prevalence of human rights violations. |
Seem like it was this plane, http://www.planesregister.com/aircraft/a310-548.htm
18 year-old plane, former owner Air India and Singapore Airlines. |
Diverted flight
Looks like a diverted flight to alternate (Port Sudan) which re-tried to land at KRT later. I remember numerous incidents and accidents (KLM & PA crash, the largest air incident in history at Tenerife as an example) after such diversions. Yes, the operation hours might be within limits and regulations, but why are incidents closely correlated to diversions and delays?
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Airport Closed
NOTAM Released : RWY CLOSED. 10 JUN 19:04 2008 UNTIL 11 JUN 06:00 2008. CREATED: 10 JUN 19:06 2008 RIP All Affected |
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It's sad to see so strong signs of wind, so few chutes and no signs of firefighters on the CNN video.
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A310
What a tragedy - this aircraft was brought in only recently. Talk of a technical failiure of some kind on approach.The wind is certainly strong but not unuasual for KRT.
Very sad |
Tailwind Landing
I see a strong tailwind blowing over the acft, but maybe it turned around when it went of the rwy.
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ITV just reported a "quote" from the Airport Manager who said the problem occured whilst the aircraft was taxying after landing safely.
No idea if this is accurate - would certainly be unusual. |
Several reports from mulitple sources are saying an explosion occurred somewhere on the right wing after the aircraft landed and was taxying.
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I flew in and out of Khartoum regularly in the late 70's/early 80's and the standards of firefighting/rescue kit was abysmal then and that was when BA (VC-10), Air France (707) and Lufthansa (727) were operating weekly services to the strip.
On start up you were lucky if a 'fireman' stood by with an extinguisher but even then you knew it was empty. I doubt these poor souls stood a chance when you consider the decades of neglect Sudan has suffered since. |
From the aviation herald:
The director of the airport, Yusuf Ibrahim, told local TV stations, that the airplane had landed normally, the flight crew discussing the taxi route with the tower, when the explosion occured. |
An incident such as this highlights the need to keep gangways clear to facilitate rapid exit if necessary.
Doubtful if external firefighters could have influenced the result (at least from the available videos, though who knows how quickly the fire developed?). |
Originally Posted by Flight Safety
(Post 4172951)
Several reports from mulitple sources are saying an explosion occurred somewhere on the right wing after the aircraft landed and was taxying.
indeed, surviving passengers now report, that there were about 2-3 minutes between the landing and the right hand engine catching fire. http://avherald.com/h?article=408093a8 Servus, Simon |
Aircraft crash in KRT
BBC , News reporting pax jet landing in a sandstorm and rain (a bit dubious both at the same time) belonging to Sudan Airways , many killed burst into flames
Sudan Airways , doesn't really suprise you really !!!!!!!! |
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Watching SKY News it looks to have come to rest in an area of rough ground and there's what appear to be approach lights close by.
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Given the strife in the area, is it just possible that this could have been a terrorist attack? Aircraft landed, taxying, suddenly No 2 catches fire. Seems odd.
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One video showed the aircraft sitting with at least the nose and left main landing gears down, the fuselage seemed in one piece, although hard to tell after it had oviously been been burning for some time. If just the right main collapsed and the fire broke on the right side, I would think that more people would have escaped as in previous similar accidents.
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Wonder if it hit something after landing?
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Revised loss figures
BBC News 24 now reporting that Sudan have revised loss of life to at least 28. ( twenty eight)
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daikilo - don't be surprised that there are no firefighters to be seen.... TIA
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bbc link
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Nothing has changed Eagle 402.
"On start up you were lucky if a 'fireman' stood by with an extinguisher but even then you knew it was empty." They still do it- if your lucky! :) Flying into KTM you can expect the unexpected. Not to talk to ATC some times until your 300 miles from KTM. Perhaps 1-2 hours of no area ATC. Being cleared for an ILS approach when its on test and if it's not working. Dubious ATC clearences. Horrendous weather, Thunderstorms and dust storms. Limited parked and in very tight spaces. And the man with ground to air machine guns still sits by the runways. Oh David Learmount was talking on TV saying in this modern day this kind of accident shouldn't be happening! He has obviously never operated into a airfield in Sudan! :ugh: RIP to all those who died. And apart from being 'dry' KTM is quite a nice nightstop with very friendly people. ;) |
When I first went into KRT about three years ago. There was no paint on the runway at all and an aircraft that appeared to have overun the threshold & come to rest had people camped under the wing.
They have spent some money and painted markers and have had radar installed but I sometimes wonder as to whether they know how it works. As said, everything has to be taken with a pinch of salt there. Best to do the procedure, ignore the 'vectors' and as for the 'latest' tower wx, it could be anything. More than two aircraft at a time and the ATC can't cope. What ever the cause, the place and everything that goes on there is shonky. It's the same in a lot of venues out that way. |
we were approaching Khartoum yesterday afternoon at the same time as the Sudan Airways flight. A C-130 that landed reported severe turbulence on final. With this the Sudan Airways flight decided to divert to Port Sudan. We continued to KTM and came over head the field at 8000', took a visual, did a short approach and landed. There was a small clear radius around the field that was clear but the weather surrounding it was bad and closing in. There was an extreme amount of standing water on the runway when KLM landed 20 mins after us, we were suprised that no one had gotten flame outs on the rollout.
We got home, threw on the news and couldn't believe our eyes. |
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/africa/article4110607.ece
It would appear that some survivors were able to leave the airport without the authorities being aware, so unable to confirm the numbers of survivors!
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