News of rumoured extreme low pressure. 940mb.
 

BBC reporting the coming of a stormy Sunday/Monday with pressure down to approx 940mb. Expect storm force winds and severe turbulence, so the lady said.
Just checked my roster and see I land late Sunday.
Get your videos cameras ready to record all the wing tip taps, gross-wind landings, wheel squirming bounces, crab kicking and ring squeezing landings so that we can read all about how bad/rubbish/badly trained/inexperienced/unsafe/loco-hence untrained we all are on Tuesday.
Does news of a rumour qualify for this thread?

Press Association says 80mph winds are expected. It has to cross Ireland to get to the UK, of course, and ie expected to be pretty severe. Considering some of the Dublin landings I've experienced as SLF, I'm glad I'm not travelling during this period. :ouch:

I remember flying a helicopter out to an oil rig in the North Sea in the 80's altimeters those days only went to 945mb but the pressure went down below 940mb so the decision was made to all fly on 950mb for separation purposes.
I do remember it was a good bumpy ride, have fun!

"Gross-wind landings"??? Not sure this would be welcome in the cockpit!
:p

Better to get the warnings direct than via the news agencies:

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/..._warnings.html

Well thats just lovely, back to work after a week of Annual Leave on Monday and where am I going? Dublin. Twice. Yeeeeeeee-haaaaaaaaaaaa!!! :}

Cloud-Bunny
Well at least if you get it wrong first time you'll get another chance ;)

I remember the infamous 'hurricane' in 1987, mainly cos I was at Kinloss, well out of the way! :ok: Called St. Mawgan for their weather about 20:00 and the QFE was down around 952mb. Had to get the old training books out to work out how to use QNEif the pressure went below 945mb. :eek:

Or if I get it wrong first time I could end up on the news!!!! :uhoh:

Looking at the surface weather charts (Friday to Monday as I type), it is interesting to see that the low in question does not even form until Sunday 1200.

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/..._pressure.html

Strong southerlies on Monday morning. Good luck at Heathrow and Gatwick.

I guess I will not be going far in the Chieftain then !!

Patient one.

The weather warning is now speicifying Mon through Tues.

"Good luck...We're All Counting on You."

Try Ottawa today/tonight...

"Well, this is it: they're predicting the worst storm of the year starting this afternoon for the next 24 hours...50cm (yes, 20"), 70kmh winds, etc."

Global warming? Wrong :mad: globe

What happened, did George Bush's head finally implode?

I'm Glad i'm rostered for the simulator Monday / Tuesday :}

Here is the perfect chance for those who have participated on the LH A320 at HAM thread to "demonstrate" that crew on how it's done in this sort of wx. Better take extra fuel, you might end up diverting down here to LIS :}

Some of my best landings have been in rough WX.
I have admit when A.T.C. say.
"Cleared to land runway 27 the surface wind is calm"
I sh!t myself ... yehh I know. I don't follow the norm do I :confused:
Ohhh! I've just seen my roster...early LGW's Tuesday :eek:

SLF
 

I'm SLF on Monday from EGNT to EGAA.

I'm feeling nervous already :{

Maybe it's time to use my first sick day of the year.

Bum,

I am LHR -Dublin and back on Monday.

I remember a very low low in previous years. It was below the minimum altimeter setting so everyone had to set a nominal figure.

To the person who posted a rumour of extreme low pressure. Don't worry there won't be a hurricane..............

Well someone had to be first:ouch:

EDIT::D:D Just as I posted the above the ad for STORM AVIATION materialised in the middle of it. Talk about targeted advertising. :ok:

Glad I'm not flying on Monday !

JIPPO

Cloud Bunny
my first trip in the left seat of a b747 "all on my own" was a double rugby charter DUB-EDI, in marginal x-winds.
on taxi in at edi ATC said the guidance system for my stand had just blown away, but if i looked up at the roof of the building i would see a marshaller.
sure ,nuff one guy on de sticks....two holding him down!
enjoy your weekend.:D

Phew!

Days off Monday and Tuesday. I look forward to reading (watching ?) all about it from you guys 'n' gals. Have fun!

... and just to emphasise the point:

940mb = 2190 feet away from Standard

Careful out there, especially if your aircraft has been standing for a few days and the altimeter is on a much higher setting.

For a short time on Friday the BBC web site's weather page was showing it as low as 936mb. The latest forecast is 948mb.

To put this in perspective, the great storm of 1987 that hit England with gusts of up to 100kts was 958mb.

I am flying out of LGW on Monday (and back again) - what a day for it! :p

Ok then I am going to make a prediction - I bet the wind will not be as strong as they are forecasting at the moment. What odds will Ladbrokes give me I wonder?

Even given all the computing power, weather forecasting is still an imprecise science.

I'm glad I dont fly out of BHX now!

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rubik101News of rumoured extreme low pressure. 940mb.
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gross-wind landings,
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"Gross-wind landings"??? Not sure this would be welcome in the cockpit!

:-)

On one of my first x-wind landings (not quite 55kts and gusting but enough for
an inexperienced E145 F/O) I was very proud and happy that my captain allowed/gave me the chance to land the thing. OK, so it wasn't the best - I was more than a little nervous and the approach wasn't as smooth as it could have been. At one point I make a slight overcorrection and at that point said captain farted - long, loud and the unmistakable smell of fear.

Nothing more was said until we parked at the gate when captain apologies; C/C came in to cockpit and remarked that after that approach the cabin smelt the same too...

Low barometric pressure? My tip is always give the screen a little tap before you land

Oh 'ing great - I'm supposed to be flying from BHX-DUS on Monday....:hmm:

However, the Met Office is rather good at being somewhat alarmist these elf 'n safety, ambulance-chasing lawyer days, ever since it totally porked up forecasting The Great Storm, so I am taking this forecast with a pinch of salt right now.

I doubt whether the gushing weather-wenches on TV can provide anything more accurate before Monday.

Getting back to Cardiff at just before midnight on Sunday. Waterproof trousers and loose wellies are in order, methinks!

Don't worry. Strong winds can be programmed in for you. Would 100kts straight across the runway be ok?

Looking at the surface pressure forecast sequence, I'd say they'll have a reasonable idea on Sunday when the particular area of low pressure that's supposed to cause the problem is predicted to form.

They'll have a reasonable idea - they have their model with all its chaos theory and the sim gets run repeatedly with slightly different initial conditions. If they all tend to converge on the same answer then they'll claim it as the forecast, if the sims all diverge then they usually just declare the weather as unsettled without predicting anything.

By Wednesday we'll have the answer.

Standard Belfast day - what's all the fuss about? :}

For the record....where I'm at, a 940MB LPA is known as a..........
TYPHOON!!!! :eek:
Good luck over there!

Ok, I am now officially "looking forward" to my Glasgow->London City Airport flight on Monday morning.

Still, it's at 8:30am so we're hardly the first plane of the day - the pilots will know what to expect.

Best thing is, I understand we wouldn't even be in the air if this was worrying the airline, so if my flight goes ahead, I'm going to make sure I enjoy the experience - coming into LCY as PAX is as close as I'll get to landing on a carrier :E

Parents are on a cruise leaving Southampton on Monday:yuk: And you thought it was just you guys who would be having an interesting time :oh:

You tend to get more snow when the atmosphere is on average _warmer_, not colder. Warmer air can support more absolute moisture, and then when the air cools even slightly the moisture falls out massively as snow.

I'm right next door to Ottawa and it's pretty severe here. We had 25cm Wednesday as well. Most of my spare time is spent shifting snow about. :*

Suggest those of you in the hold at BNN keep a good look out below around late morning when the transatlantics start rolling. Good old US crews the favourite for climbing to FL still on the QNH.

Im more worried about a Truck blowing over on top of me car driving into work than Operating in such Winds...

Hopefully it'll be straight down the Runway for most of us...

Keep your wits about you, keep the girls strapped in and take plenty of extra Fuel!

Be Safe guys. :ok: