Emb 145 Alight At Glasgow
 

Reports of an EMB 145 set alight at Glasgow overnight.Anybody got any news ?

BMI Fire at GLA
 

Just heard on Radio 2 Glasgow shut because of BMI aircraft Fire with no one on board...Anyone hear anymore info?????

bmi embraer 145 stand 31 torched and condition currently under wraps. Airfield currently closed due incident scene set up at end of pier. Security breach necessitating complete airfield and aircraft security search and airfield expecting to open in next hour. Alleged lighter fuel sprayed on ground around aircraft

Airfield now open

Possibly followers of The Society for Safe and Reliable (Not to Mention Comfortable) Aviation? :rolleyes:

bbc news story

Blaze started at 0410 and the airfield was closed til 0910?? Whats that all about.

Don't know any more than has been reported on the radio and BBC.

I ain't a detective, but it does seem rather conincidental that the airport fire service announced 12 hours before the fire, that it is to strike next week, due to "safety concerns"... :confused:

I have an alibi!

'Blaze started at 0410 and the airfield was closed til 0910?? Whats that all about?'

Its about a criminal investigation, sterile police search investigation zone declared around the incident, included part of runway

Absolutely.

This is a serious breach of security. I mean come on, someone has torched an aircraft and lets just say, yeah open back up ASAP.

I bet the insurance company will come up with some way of not paying!

How many flights would that 5 hour shutdown affect?

Hobie

The BBC story says

"The airfield closure caused delays to four international and three domestic flights. "

Windsheer is right. This was a major breach of security at a BAA airport. If only the airPORTS ensured that the Restricted Zone was more robustly maintained then the stupid and costly restrictions placed on the airLINES could be scaled down.

But that would cost the airports money to employ sufficient manpower - and that ain't going to happen!

Anne :O

There's nowt wrong with the safety, reliablity and frankly the comfort of bmi regional's 145 fleet. In fact, experience tells me that the 145 is at least as comfortable as the 747 I will have to endure 24 hours in, tomorrow. Roll on the A380 and 800 seats!!

Can anyone verify the extent of the damage to the GLA 145? Surely more than a window was cooked?

Surely, under the 'alleged' circumstances of the incident, the respective BAA Insurance company shold shoulder all costs.

An Airport is supposed to be a sterile zone, espically Airside, therefore, the Airport Authority (and Strathclyde Police), should take responsibility for the serious breach of security.

AN ..... :ok: ... missed that bit :cool:

PORTS LINES
 

Anne.N

I don't see the point in your emphASIS:hmm:

That said, this is a VERY (sorry) serious issue for GLA/BAA. It shouldn't be that easy to walk onto an airfield and torch an aircraft. This must be rather embarassing with the looming AFS strike.........ironically coincidental don't you think?

Rgds
The Moss

Sounds like the SJU Dupont Hotel fire in 1986 where 96 people died. The fire started minutes after a Teamsters contract expired. Three Teamsta's were convicted of setting the blaze...

You gotta problem wit dat?

This incident ,thread has nothing to do with bmiRegional,s Reliability, punctuality, safety policy or training all of which you can take from me as being second to no one.

An account of the incident in one of todays newspapers suggests that someone in an old BMW drove up and parked on the road leading to the terminal building adjacent to the international pier.

They then used a plank to scale the security fence and walked around the full length of the international pier for approximately 500 metres with a petrol can, past the security offices before setting the fire. A picture shows the plank against the fence.

A taxi driver says that he saw the car sitting but did not report it as a policeman was standing just along the road and thought that he would deal with it as cars are not allowed to stop in that area.

One or to people may get a rocket up their backside for this.

By the way there is no such thing as arson under Scots law, the offence being malicious ignition or wilful fireraising.

Bally moss

As the Rwy 31 points out this was a breach of the perimeter of the Restricted Zone which is solely the responsibility of the airport. This was clearly laid down in a document known as Single Direction to Airport Managers.

However, because the airport operators are continually failing to maintain a secure
area, the DfT are requirng the aircraft operators (airlines) to put into place additional measures to protect aircraft. This includes guarding of aircraft when not in use which is a vast expense to the airline - when it should be the responsibility of the airport!

Rant over

Anne :O

Runway 31 90% correct, the guy placed a black bag with some sort of flamable items inside on the inboard side of the LH wing and set fire to it. He was chased by some employees of another airline who saw him from a distance but he managed to escape over the fence using the plank you mention.
The LH inner wing, fuselage etc are all damaged.
Really surprised there is not more news coverage of this.
:mad:

OK. You've got the how... now the why?:confused:

This incident just goes to show that for all the 'security' present these days at airports there's sweet FA in place to deal with a nutter who simply hops over the fence with whatever he chooses to use to inflict damage.
Show up to work however, without yer pass, and your chances of getting through 'security' are nil. Unless that is you never ever held a pass in which case you go straight through! (visiting or GA pilots etc)

The whole thing needs a giant boot up the arse!
:mad:

Really quite a bizarre incident. What would be nice to know is does this guy have a problem with bmi, or did he walk around the pier to the smallest aircraft which was easily targeted due to its height off the ground.

Will be interesting to see what security issues are raised in the coming weeks.

HS

Makes me feel really good, as a FQTV through BAA airports.

They're red hot on confiscating my nail clippers and I'm sure that this is a great contribution to security.

At least this latest miscreant could only torch the a/c, not slash the FD seats like the 73 at Stansted a while ago .... wonder if the perp used nail clippers for that little wheeze?

So guess what...
 

Because "Security" is now an issue, I bet our anally retentive friends (The Gestapo) on security will give aircrew and extra special search on their way to work. I'd suggest that more rules will be invented like "You can't bring that wooden pallet, matches and petrol can through here Captain" and "You'll have to remove all the staples from your paperwork, don't you know that we've just had a major security incident" etc... Forgetting the fact that they doing a pointless phuqqing job in a miss-guided way supervised by knob-heads of the highest order. I hope BMI sues BAA for negligence and drives them into bankruptcy - but I doubt it
:yuk:

Piltdown,

I went through there first thing this morning and the checks appeared no different to normal.

capsLOCK
 

Anne

Don't worry my dear, I didn't miss your point, just wondered why
you used the CAPS. Holding down the shift key requires so much more effort. It was just my Saturday night beer fuelled humour!;)

Back to the thread. Doesn't, on the face of it appear to be an opportunist (for that read nutter) attack but, would seem to have a certain amount of 'planning'. Someone with an axe to grind? Have BMI regional sacked anyone up there recently?

I still can't get this proposed AFS strike out of my head though.....too coincidental for my liking.

Rgds
The Moss

i was led to believe earlier today that it was initially believed to be pax on jetty but now suspected arson.

The worrying thing about this incident is that had he chosen not to light a fire, he probably would have gone unnoticed during his airside sojourn.

He could then have planted a bomb, a gun, or heaven forbid a pair of nail clippers for an accomplice to retrieve and carry out his worst in the manicure department.

In the meantime, TRANSEC continue to fiddle while security burns. Walk through security in Glasgow airport and you may find a cheap polythene sword on display (alongside a selection of manicure and personal hygiene products) in a cheap plastic cabinet confiscated from a distressed 5yr old kid. Oh yes....and police preventing limo drivers from picking up crew at the pickup point because it's a car and not a bus and therefore not entitled to use that bus stop.

I reckon being a terrorist must be one of the easiest jobs in the world right now. :confused:

Well don't look at me! I think they're really really wonderful, truly truly kind, fantastically considerate, amazingly forward thinking and unbelievably well managed.

:rolleyes:




:yuk: :mad:

OK, I can't stand it........here's what I really think......

It could well be that the finger of suspicion for the EMB145 torching could point more firmly towards any bmi employee who has :-

--- Been made redundant upon a "crisis management" whim of the moment.

--- Been relocated upon a "crisis management" whim of the moment.

--- Been unfairly sacked

--- Been unfairly disciplined

--- Been unfairly treated

--- Had their terms of employment ignored.

--- Been "turned down" by them (since some posters here seem to think it matters :rolleyes: :} )

--- etc

That could be a lot of angry people!

*Expects predictable and naive responses from certain biased posters with special interests*


*Knock knock*

Hello officers. Hey gerroff! Leggo! I've got an alibi! :}

Don't worry AC..I know exactly where you were on Saturday morning !!! ;)
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I sure hope that the authorities catch the individual(s)
and soon.

As I'm overseas and cannot access the company website, could someone in the know please satisfy my intrigue and tell me which a/c and the state of the damage. Cheers.

LOST.

The aircraft involved is G-RJXD and it ferried to Aberdeen last night and is now in the hanger alongside the BMI F100 which carried out a 0 flap landing yesterday.

Anyone know if the arsonist was wearing his yellow jacket?:hmm:

The majority of the damage caused to the a/c is water damage from the afs, the fire damage was minimal, last i heard they needed to replace a seat, a window and possibly a flap

As we discussed at work today, looking for somebody with a grudge against Regional won't dramatically reduce the list of suspects. It might mean the additional a/c at EMA might take a while longer to arrive:mad:

Looker

Quote "The majority of the damage caused to the a/c is water damage from the afs, the fire damage was minimal, last i heard they needed to replace a seat, a window and possibly a flap"

Must have been some amount of water to damage a window and a flap !!!!.

The water/foam nozzle on airport fire trucks are quite capable of denting metal aircraft parts and breaking glass/composites when used to close.
High pressure, high volume! :ugh:

From the BBC. Better watch out, any number on here could be referred to as a plank!!!!


Plank appeal after airport fire

Police are treating the fire as suspicious
Police investigating an aircraft fire at Glasgow Airport say a dark coloured car carrying a plank of wood was seen near the terminal.
A plank was found leaning against the airport perimeter fence and is believed to have been used in the incident at 0350 GMT on Saturday.

The window of a parked bmi Embraer aircraft was damaged by the fire.

Police said the plank would have been about three feet longer than the car and therefore "very noticeable".

The car was seen in the vicinity of the airport terminal between 0330 and 0415.

Construction industry

Earlier, it was spotted travelling west on the M8 and left the motorway by the slip road leading to the terminal.

The plank is believed to have been tied to the driver's side of the car.

Detective Superintendent Jim Porteous appealled for scaffolders and people in the construction industry who may have information to come forward.

Strathclyde Police said they were treating the incident as wilful fire-raising, but were looking into all other lines of inquiry.

Flights were halted following the blaze.


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