Emb145 Arson Probe at Glasgow
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bmi embraer 145 stand 31 torched and condition currently under wraps. Airfield currently closed due incident scene set up at end of pier. Security breach necessitating complete airfield and aircraft security search and airfield expecting to open in next hour. Alleged lighter fuel sprayed on ground around aircraft
Airfield now open
Airfield now open
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Don't know any more than has been reported on the radio and BBC.
I ain't a detective, but it does seem rather conincidental that the airport fire service announced 12 hours before the fire, that it is to strike next week, due to "safety concerns"...
I ain't a detective, but it does seem rather conincidental that the airport fire service announced 12 hours before the fire, that it is to strike next week, due to "safety concerns"...
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'Blaze started at 0410 and the airfield was closed til 0910?? Whats that all about?'
Its about a criminal investigation, sterile police search investigation zone declared around the incident, included part of runway
Its about a criminal investigation, sterile police search investigation zone declared around the incident, included part of runway
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Absolutely.
This is a serious breach of security. I mean come on, someone has torched an aircraft and lets just say, yeah open back up ASAP.
I bet the insurance company will come up with some way of not paying!
This is a serious breach of security. I mean come on, someone has torched an aircraft and lets just say, yeah open back up ASAP.
I bet the insurance company will come up with some way of not paying!
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The BBC story says
"The airfield closure caused delays to four international and three domestic flights. "
Windsheer is right. This was a major breach of security at a BAA airport. If only the airPORTS ensured that the Restricted Zone was more robustly maintained then the stupid and costly restrictions placed on the airLINES could be scaled down.
But that would cost the airports money to employ sufficient manpower - and that ain't going to happen!
Anne
The BBC story says
"The airfield closure caused delays to four international and three domestic flights. "
Windsheer is right. This was a major breach of security at a BAA airport. If only the airPORTS ensured that the Restricted Zone was more robustly maintained then the stupid and costly restrictions placed on the airLINES could be scaled down.
But that would cost the airports money to employ sufficient manpower - and that ain't going to happen!
Anne
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There's nowt wrong with the safety, reliablity and frankly the comfort of bmi regional's 145 fleet. In fact, experience tells me that the 145 is at least as comfortable as the 747 I will have to endure 24 hours in, tomorrow. Roll on the A380 and 800 seats!!
Can anyone verify the extent of the damage to the GLA 145? Surely more than a window was cooked?
Can anyone verify the extent of the damage to the GLA 145? Surely more than a window was cooked?
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Surely, under the 'alleged' circumstances of the incident, the respective BAA Insurance company shold shoulder all costs.
An Airport is supposed to be a sterile zone, espically Airside, therefore, the Airport Authority (and Strathclyde Police), should take responsibility for the serious breach of security.
An Airport is supposed to be a sterile zone, espically Airside, therefore, the Airport Authority (and Strathclyde Police), should take responsibility for the serious breach of security.
... missed that bit 
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PORTS LINES
Anne.N
I don't see the point in your emphASIS
That said, this is a VERY (sorry) serious issue for GLA/BAA. It shouldn't be that easy to walk onto an airfield and torch an aircraft. This must be rather embarassing with the looming AFS strike.........ironically coincidental don't you think?
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The Moss
I don't see the point in your emphASIS
That said, this is a VERY (sorry) serious issue for GLA/BAA. It shouldn't be that easy to walk onto an airfield and torch an aircraft. This must be rather embarassing with the looming AFS strike.........ironically coincidental don't you think?
Rgds
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Sounds like the SJU Dupont Hotel fire in 1986 where 96 people died. The fire started minutes after a Teamsters contract expired. Three Teamsta's were convicted of setting the blaze...
You gotta problem wit dat?
You gotta problem wit dat?
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An account of the incident in one of todays newspapers suggests that someone in an old BMW drove up and parked on the road leading to the terminal building adjacent to the international pier.
They then used a plank to scale the security fence and walked around the full length of the international pier for approximately 500 metres with a petrol can, past the security offices before setting the fire. A picture shows the plank against the fence.
A taxi driver says that he saw the car sitting but did not report it as a policeman was standing just along the road and thought that he would deal with it as cars are not allowed to stop in that area.
One or to people may get a rocket up their backside for this.
By the way there is no such thing as arson under Scots law, the offence being malicious ignition or wilful fireraising.
They then used a plank to scale the security fence and walked around the full length of the international pier for approximately 500 metres with a petrol can, past the security offices before setting the fire. A picture shows the plank against the fence.
A taxi driver says that he saw the car sitting but did not report it as a policeman was standing just along the road and thought that he would deal with it as cars are not allowed to stop in that area.
One or to people may get a rocket up their backside for this.
By the way there is no such thing as arson under Scots law, the offence being malicious ignition or wilful fireraising.
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As the Rwy 31 points out this was a breach of the perimeter of the Restricted Zone which is solely the responsibility of the airport. This was clearly laid down in a document known as Single Direction to Airport Managers.
However, because the airport operators are continually failing to maintain a secure
area, the DfT are requirng the aircraft operators (airlines) to put into place additional measures to protect aircraft. This includes guarding of aircraft when not in use which is a vast expense to the airline - when it should be the responsibility of the airport!
Rant over
Anne
As the Rwy 31 points out this was a breach of the perimeter of the Restricted Zone which is solely the responsibility of the airport. This was clearly laid down in a document known as Single Direction to Airport Managers.
However, because the airport operators are continually failing to maintain a secure
area, the DfT are requirng the aircraft operators (airlines) to put into place additional measures to protect aircraft. This includes guarding of aircraft when not in use which is a vast expense to the airline - when it should be the responsibility of the airport!
Rant over
Anne