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If you lot put as much effort into figuring out how to compete with Ryanair as you put into slagging them off you might not feel the need to slag them off as often as you do!
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Wake up folks... .The future has arrived to Europe..
Did those of you who always gives the thumbs down to everything regarding Ryanair, EasyJet, Go..etc.., really think that you can expect those companies to stop operating..?. .They are here to stay, and that's wether you like it or not..
To be transported from A to B the cheapest way is here to stay, and good so..
I think it's OK thay some guys dare challenge the price policy of the "big ones"..and becomes the big ones themselves... .It's rediculous to pay a fortune for a 1 - 2 hour flight..
It's really waste of your own and everyone elses time to whine about these low cost carriers all the time... .They will continue anyway..
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Did those of you who always gives the thumbs down to everything regarding Ryanair, EasyJet, Go..etc.., really think that you can expect those companies to stop operating..?. .They are here to stay, and that's wether you like it or not..
To be transported from A to B the cheapest way is here to stay, and good so..
I think it's OK thay some guys dare challenge the price policy of the "big ones"..and becomes the big ones themselves... .It's rediculous to pay a fortune for a 1 - 2 hour flight..
It's really waste of your own and everyone elses time to whine about these low cost carriers all the time... .They will continue anyway..
Krgds. .Monitor
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I admit to being a Ryanair knocker but let's be honest, they ask for it. I think you should also ask yourself why there is nowhere near as much 'whining' about Go and easyJet.
The point being made is that Ryanair are often perceived as being cowboys. Their methods in some areas are, at the very least, dubious and they have no respect whatsoever for those in their employ.
Aviation is still, for some of us, an industry requiring a degree of commitment and professionalism. To see a fellow pilot, flight attendant or whatever go through the same rigours and sacrifices as oneself only to be treated so badly by their employer really rankles. That is why Mr O'Leary is viewed with such contempt.
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Would it make you feel safer as you taxi out on your next cheap flight to know that we had taken your advice to heart, wound our necks in and kept our mouths shut when we saw something wrong?
There's a country down under that has produced many of my favourite sayings one of which is 'Keep the b*astards honest'.
I'm sure you'd rather we did.
[ 23 January 2002: Message edited by: Flintstone ]</p>
I admit to being a Ryanair knocker but let's be honest, they ask for it. I think you should also ask yourself why there is nowhere near as much 'whining' about Go and easyJet.
The point being made is that Ryanair are often perceived as being cowboys. Their methods in some areas are, at the very least, dubious and they have no respect whatsoever for those in their employ.
Aviation is still, for some of us, an industry requiring a degree of commitment and professionalism. To see a fellow pilot, flight attendant or whatever go through the same rigours and sacrifices as oneself only to be treated so badly by their employer really rankles. That is why Mr O'Leary is viewed with such contempt.
. .SLF3
Would it make you feel safer as you taxi out on your next cheap flight to know that we had taken your advice to heart, wound our necks in and kept our mouths shut when we saw something wrong?
There's a country down under that has produced many of my favourite sayings one of which is 'Keep the b*astards honest'.
I'm sure you'd rather we did.
[ 23 January 2002: Message edited by: Flintstone ]</p>
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Well said, Flintstone. I also admit to being a "Ryanair knocker".
It is NOT because I am anti-low-cost carriers. Far from it. I would love a job with Go or easyJet! It is purely because I am implacably opposed to what I have seen and heard of Ryanair's policies and practices which, as far as I can see, differ dramatically from those of Go and easyJet.
It is NOT because I am anti-low-cost carriers. Far from it. I would love a job with Go or easyJet! It is purely because I am implacably opposed to what I have seen and heard of Ryanair's policies and practices which, as far as I can see, differ dramatically from those of Go and easyJet.
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Well said flint, regardless of all its warts Ryanair offers a cheap and not so cheerful low low cost air service to those who want to use it.
It is low cost and it does have a "certain" value, how they treat their staff and how they manage their business amounts to the same end, they are in Business to make money and we forget that at our peril.
They're certainly not my cup-o-tea, but they are certainly amusing and sometimes hillarious and occasionally terrifying to fly with , I used to enjoy their negative G pushovers at the TOC, but as age creeps up on me I prefer to fly aeros me-self <img src="smile.gif" border="0">
They have shaken up the myth of airline "class" through out the industry - that is a good thing.
They have clearly demonstrated that the Big Boys had too much fat - a very good thing if you look at aer lingus.
. .They have clearly been successful at following SWA's low cost model - that is a relatively good thing.
They are certainly providing jobs, or mac-jobs depending on your position - sometimes not always a good thing. economics - not very honourable economics, but they are in business to make money.
They have consistantly managed to set low standards in terms of time, baggage, discomfort, delays, and service - once again proving you get what you pay for. Some of their cabin crew are absolutely appaling
Their "low fare" advertising is no more misleading than what most insurance companies offer, so who are the fools for entering into deal -I think we are ?
I personally have never managed to get a happy balance between their fares and their service, I think they should charge less or get nicer hosties <img src="smile.gif" border="0">
. .besides I usually try and get plastered before flying on them as a passenger - makes me less scared <img src="smile.gif" border="0">
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It is low cost and it does have a "certain" value, how they treat their staff and how they manage their business amounts to the same end, they are in Business to make money and we forget that at our peril.
They're certainly not my cup-o-tea, but they are certainly amusing and sometimes hillarious and occasionally terrifying to fly with , I used to enjoy their negative G pushovers at the TOC, but as age creeps up on me I prefer to fly aeros me-self <img src="smile.gif" border="0">
They have shaken up the myth of airline "class" through out the industry - that is a good thing.
They have clearly demonstrated that the Big Boys had too much fat - a very good thing if you look at aer lingus.
. .They have clearly been successful at following SWA's low cost model - that is a relatively good thing.
They are certainly providing jobs, or mac-jobs depending on your position - sometimes not always a good thing. economics - not very honourable economics, but they are in business to make money.
They have consistantly managed to set low standards in terms of time, baggage, discomfort, delays, and service - once again proving you get what you pay for. Some of their cabin crew are absolutely appaling
Their "low fare" advertising is no more misleading than what most insurance companies offer, so who are the fools for entering into deal -I think we are ?
I personally have never managed to get a happy balance between their fares and their service, I think they should charge less or get nicer hosties <img src="smile.gif" border="0">
. .besides I usually try and get plastered before flying on them as a passenger - makes me less scared <img src="smile.gif" border="0">
. .F4
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Looks like Ryanair are getting their own back.
A mate travelled half way around the world. Visited family in Ireland and was supposed to be coming to the UK yesterday.
You guessed it, they bumped him!
(Shoulda told me who he was booked with. Silly boy).
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[ 25 January 2002: Message edited by: Flintstone ]</p>
A mate travelled half way around the world. Visited family in Ireland and was supposed to be coming to the UK yesterday.
You guessed it, they bumped him!
(Shoulda told me who he was booked with. Silly boy).
Edited because I need a new keyboard
[ 25 January 2002: Message edited by: Flintstone ]</p>
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MOLlymaloneAir is a liability and accident waiting to happen! I remember the days when (allegedly) ex Romanian AF/ ex TAROM pilots were used ex dublin with their ass clencher aircraft.I remember taking off from Luton with a heavy thunderstorm o/head and the nose going up twice and not much else following(he went around and did it 3rd time lucky with a chorus of screams and without so much as an apology or explanation) More recently I remember picking the phone up to distraught elderly antipodean friends who had been B+A'd (Bumped and abandoned) and ended up coming BA.. .For a couple of quid more it is more refreshing to leave from a country you paid for (CPH read Malmo), be treated with civility and have worries smoothed over by a voice that knows hows to articulate and use a PA system.. .I also prefer to have uniforms on a/craft I travel on and not to have the living daylights sh+t out of me when the CEO pops up with the £4 Reprocessed sandwich that started the day in Lubeck and i'm eating it over Prestwick.. .I want an A I R L I N E. Not a Bus. If the latter were required i'd get a student card and travel europe that way.
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At the speeds at which they normally taxy? Not long.
I gather that several airports have taken to logging taxying speeds of some carriers. FR have been clocked in excess of 70 kts.
I gather that several airports have taken to logging taxying speeds of some carriers. FR have been clocked in excess of 70 kts.
