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Old 20th Jan 2002, 18:20
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Have any other pilots been ripped off by this outfit? They make a living by charging flight crew extortionate fines for parking in staff car parks at various UK airports.

I grudgingly paid an outrageous £60 fine a few months ago -and have just received another bill for £100 together with a summons. Their only point of contact is a premium rate phone number. Has anyone else been stitched up by them?
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LOTS of people S.O.!! - Talk to your bosses, they will certainly be active in this matter. Remember, your company applied for your permit, and neither they, or the airport, told you you'd be fined for whatever "transgressions" you have allegedly committed, so get them fighting on your behalf - you won't be the only one. Excel is going way over the top and should be stopped NOW! I hope Excel realise the negative feeling and publicity the company is generating - last week a flight attendant was stranded in a huge car park in the middle of the night due to a clamping. How long could Excel survive if this incident could be shown to have put this person at risk. Let's hope the company can see sense and moderate the behavior of it's attendants.

PS. non premium rate no. is 01142678008. Good Luck!

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they tried to fine me also.

I wrote them a letter of appeal. They wrote back saying that they still wanted me to pay. They also threatened me with court and costs. SO WHAT! LIKE I CARE! They can sue me. Id love to go to court and explain to the judge about their crappy little outfit. Put this into perspective, its just a parking ticket.

they rely on people to roll over and play dead. thats how companys like this survive. remember the onus is on them to prove you are guilty.
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...Yes, just had another demand from them;

-"Notice of intent to issue court procedings" -the bill has gone up to £170 (£20 court fee and £50 "solicitor's scale costs").There is NO WAY they are getting any of that!
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Park in the right place with a valid sticker. If you think you might use the other car - get a sticker for that too. No problem - no ticket -no fine.
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ShotOne -oh yes you will, and more if you don't pay up soon. You have more chance of getting off if it were a case of theft, molestation or drugs, but a parking fine -never!
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Sorry Joyce Tick, tried that! Only one sticker per employee, unless you lie and say you have lost the original and pay approx £7 for a spare. Why should we have to do that? People are being fined because passes are left on dashboards, and not affixed to the windscreen, and because a dirty windscreen and / or a windscreen wiper obscures some detail on the pass! Surely this gives some idea of the company ethos with which we are all dealing?

I honestly don't need hassles like legal consultations on my days off, but, like Shot One and aileron, it will be a cold day in hell before these bully boys get any of my hard earned cash - just ask my solicitor!
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Top of the f**k off list as far as I'm concerned. By the way, one of their vans was parked outside Olympic House the other day and I truly wished for the cops to come along and tow the ******* away!
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Oi Joyce tick,-

I feel that I must apologise for not being quite as amazingly perfect as you must most certianly be.

You must be fun on a nightstop....
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Try copying a few sticker passes on a good quality scanner/printer. They produce excellent fakes!!
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Do you have some basis for saying that Pete'O -like you used to work there?

Many employees have been intimidated into paying up. The letters are very menacing, with threats of court action and huge escalation in these charges if not paid immediately.

How does the company manage to get away with this -and is the airport authority taking a cut?
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It's not clear from this if the parking people are resorting to wheel clamps, but if so you can always do what I did, i.e. nip down to your local hardware store, purchase a sodding great pair of bolt-cutters, ...... nuff said ! <img src="wink.gif" border="0">

The best one I ever saw was a builders van with a clamp on it. The builder came back, looked quizzically at the clamp, opened the rear door or van, pulled out the biggest petrol powered angle-grinder I'd ever seen, and after a deft bit of handiwork no more clamp. He then drove off, but not before he'd finished grinding 'F*** you !' right through the metal of the clamp itself - pure art it was, pure art - yep, nice one !
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Good story. Unfortunately Excel's ideal victim is more likely to be a stewardess returning from a flight at 3 in the morning.

These people are sharks. They know that their intimidation tactics will work as we go away a lot and are too busy to want the hassle of fighting a claim in court.
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I have just discovered why Manchester Airport tolerate these parasites. They get an equal cut of any cash that they screw out of us. How low can you get -boosting their cash flow directly from the pockets of workers who have no choice but to park there.

Over half the pilots I've spoken to have fallen foul of Excel in one way or another. One guy ticketed because his windscreen was dirty. Another returned to find his car clamped then ticketed twice on successive days -a bill of £180. Why don't we let the airport authority know what we think of their money raising tactics by encouraging EVERYONE who has been done over by Excel to write directly to the Managing Director Geoff Muirhead at Manchester Airport. Lets Get Rid!
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I arrived back yesterday and the clampers had been out playing. I was using a borrowed car as my own is u/s but I left a note to explain and they left me alone. Guess I was lucky, but the clamp would be worth more than the car. If we are to be clamped for minor transgressions then our airlines should issue proceedings against Excel for the cost of replacing crews who are having their rest periods compromised by waiting around for said clamp to be removed.
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One suggestion may be a trick I tried with my bank a few years ago. write back to Excel explaining you have received their letter and you are charging them X pounds in administration costs for this confirmation letter, and they have five days to pay or you will take them to court. It certainly worked for me the bank manager rang me personally. One other trick is buy 4 Clamps and the next time your clamped get a couple of mates to come to your assistance and while the bloke is unclamping your car clamp his van, I'm sure it's probably illegal but then they sail extremely close to the wind.

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Be advised, much as we read in admirable awe as to the antics of people, who remove clamps with bolt-cutters/angle-grinders, this will be criminal damage.

The only way that I know of, is if you can jack the offending wheel up and see if the wheel can be manoeuvred off without damaging the clamp. This can only be done with certain designs of clamp and may not be possible with Excel at EGCC –GOOD LUCK. . <img src="tongue.gif" border="0"> <img src="tongue.gif" border="0"> <img src="tongue.gif" border="0"> <img src="tongue.gif" border="0"> <img src="tongue.gif" border="0">

OK Scotty you've had your fun now beam up my pants!!!!
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Take the remains away with you. How can they *prove* they clamped you?
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Leave the remains of the clamp where they are, they have to prove that YOU removed the clamp. You could always claim that the clamp was on the ground when you got back. You'd need to be careful about any CCTV though.
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There is a continual problem of disposing of unwanted cars. Some people dump them by the side of the road, others pay to have them removed. Why not get Excel to help out with the problem: If you have an old banger that needs to be dumped, let Excel have it to practice clamping.

Do make sure that you remove the number plates and tax disc so that it can't be traced. Better still, once on private ground, swap the number plates around to give them even more fun.

Just a handful of dumped cars in each of their car parks should get the message across.
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