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727 stolen from Angola

Old 1st Oct 2003, 02:51
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I thought they send more info than that. Well I suppose they could steal the transponder of the 757 and then file a flight plan as that aircraft......... Hopefully there are checks and balances for these types of situations.
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Old 1st Oct 2003, 03:23
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I'm sorry to say that it would be a piece of pi$$ to fly under an asumed identity. It can easily be done when departing from some parts of the world. To avoid any flak I won't go into detail but if they have anyone with an OPS and an ATC background they could easily take advantage of the many loopholes which exist.
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Old 1st Oct 2003, 03:35
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That really bites!!!

I wonder why it shows as in operation with YAV (IRS Airlines) based in Nigeria?
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Old 1st Oct 2003, 06:12
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http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=34822

The story rehashed. No real new information.
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I wonder why it shows as in operation with YAV (IRS Airlines) based in Nigeria?

Where does it show that 747?

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littlepuddlejumper,

I think looking at my profile, especially the city I live in should give you some indication of where I get my info.

I am probably thinking about this issue more than I should, but the one thing I kept stumbling on last night is if it has fallen into the hands of terrorists why steal it and point the worlds finger at it?

These terrorists have enough money to buy any plane they want on the open market. They easily could set up a dummy cargo airline using their pilots and start aquiring aircraft. Lets be realistic, they don't care about the money.

Maybe......the theft of this aircraft is meant as a diversion to keep the intelligence agencies busy, meanwhile they are implementing a darker plan.
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Old 2nd Oct 2003, 20:28
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This is being reported as a "crash" yet the aircraft dissapeared from radar and no trace of wreckage has been found. Another "missing" aircraft???


Dubai:Tuesday, September 30, 2003






No trace of Bahraini pilot, F-16 wreckage
Manama |By Mohammed Almezel, Bureau Chief | 30-09-2003
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Teams from the Bahrain army and the US Navy have failed to locate the body of a Bahraini pilot whose Air Force F-16 fighter jet crashed at sea on Saturday, sources said yesterday.

A statement, carried by the Bahrain news agency (BNA), said yesterday His Majesty King Hamad bin Isa Al Khalifa was "personally following the strenuous efforts of the Bahrain Defence Force (BDF) and a number of friendly forces in the search operation of the missing Bahraini fighter jet."

Bahraini, American and Australian rescue teams have been involved in patrols to the north of Bahrain where the F-16 vanished from radar screens on Saturday night, local reports said yesterday.

However, the search has failed to recover the body of the pilot, Royal Air Force Colonel Abdul Aziz Senan Al Doussary, who is presumed dead or the plane's wreckage, an informed source told Gulf News yesterday.

Al Doussary "seems to have plunged to his death" when his single-pilot plane crashed in the Arabian Gulf, some 46 miles north of Bahrain, Gulf News learned.

The incident took place during a night training mission involving another plane, which has returned safely to its base, the source said, adding that Col Senan was apparently performing "a new manoeuvre" when the plane crashed.

This is the first fighter jet crash ever in Bahrain, the source said.

A passenger aircraft, a Gulf Air Airbus 320-212 coming from Egypt, crashed at sea about three miles north-east of Bahrain International Airport on August 23, 2000 resulting in the death of 135 passengers and its eight-member crew.
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Those links are interesting..I wonder if it might have been broken up for black market spares?
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Old 3rd Oct 2003, 02:08
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More than four months on, you'd have thought it would have turned up by now. Then again, I have to admit, we can't find bin Laden, Saddam Hussein or weapons of mass destruction.

On the other hand, I think it more likely that the aircraft crashed into the sea or into the African jungle/desert. And in the latter it might be difficult to locate from the air in a very remote location.
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Old 3rd Oct 2003, 02:17
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We thought it likely that nobody would crash airplanes into buildings as well.
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Old 3rd Oct 2003, 02:19
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Post U.S. practices at shooting down airliners

Practicing several times a week it says here
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Old 3rd Oct 2003, 03:43
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Unhappy

Gee, I thought they had had enough practice already. How much do they need?
I'll feel much happier flying across the US in an airliner now with all these safety measures in place, and knowing that they aren't trigger happy at all............oo err....
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Old 3rd Oct 2003, 03:46
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This is why they have to:



Scary days to be flying a 727.
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Old 3rd Oct 2003, 04:52
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Wonder where he did the type rating? Well at least if heís the skipper then thatís one less problem to worry about. Heíll be off enjoying the after life soon enough, I hear its pretty hard to power a dialysis machine in an Afghan cave in winter.
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Old 6th Oct 2003, 22:26
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And the story (and speculation) continues, from AVWEB. I hope someone reports some information that leads to discovery, and soon.

http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archive...ll.html#185816
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Old 7th Oct 2003, 08:18
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The mechanic in Beirut, according to Padilla, said the aircraft was located inside a hangar and would be used for an aerial attack against the Israeli government.
Well then , mystery solved. Obviously a mechanic would have more info than the world's intelligence agencies . I still think it crashed near the Seychelles.
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Old 7th Oct 2003, 09:35
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Well if they can't find hundreds of tonnes of CBW weapons, nuclear research programmes, Saddam or Bin Laden why would you expect them to find a single 727 in the African Bush.

Perhaps the African equivalent of the Gippos took it for scrap one night. On the other hand if you are going to nick several thousand gallons of aviation fuel it has to be easier to take it already loaded than to syphon it out amd take it away in jerry cans strapped to the handlebars of your bike.

It wasn't the local equivalent of Rag week when it got pinched was it?
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Old 20th Oct 2003, 07:20
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Is there any new News or Rumors on the missing 727?

If it had crashed you would think the wreckage would have been spotted by now.

This was posted on the African Aviation forum a few days ago, I wonder if it has any relation?

Press article
From News24:

'Mystery plane' seized
14/10/2003

Angola - Authorities in Angola's central highlands seized a plane on Tuesday which had entered the country's air space without permission, Transport Minister Andre Luis Brandao said.

The plane was being held at the airport in Kuito, 580km southeast of the capital Luanda, Brandau said.

Brandao said authorities were investigating the incident and that for the moment there were no details regarding the type of plane involved, where it had come from or if it was carrying passengers.

Monitoring Angola's skies is difficult due to a lack of modern equipment.

In May, a plane vanished from Luanda airport prompting an international security alert amid fears it could be used in terrorist attacks.
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Old 20th Oct 2003, 11:58
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Exclamation

It is scary knowing that Al Qaeda or any other terrorist group could have this 727, and perhaps it was found, but either way, that photograph above of Bin Laden supposedly standing inside the aircraft looks fake. The body is moving, however the head is still, and looks as though it has been pasted on to the body. Could just be a tactic used by anyone to scare people. It just doesnt look real, can anyone else see this? It isnt hard to notice. The body image is blurred and the head is perfect. Just doesnt work!

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Old 20th Oct 2003, 12:06
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VH-KMH go back to page 9 on this thread and you will see the actual photo. Someone was having a bit of fun, with OBLs
head..

Weren't ya 747Focal!
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