bmi moves to Belfast Harbour
Controller Friendly! Ha! what a misnomer that is!
I'll be glad to go into BHD so as to not have to put up with your sarcy controlling comments in future! Believe the staff in radar and tower couldn't be more pleasant. Maybe you should move there and learn some of their radio manner!
I'll be glad to go into BHD so as to not have to put up with your sarcy controlling comments in future! Believe the staff in radar and tower couldn't be more pleasant. Maybe you should move there and learn some of their radio manner!
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When is a headwind not a headwind? Ans: when you're landing at BHD.
When is a runway 'slippery when wet?' Ans:when the BHD ATIS claims it is WET.
Good Luck BMI..you may need some by mid winter.
When is a runway 'slippery when wet?' Ans:when the BHD ATIS claims it is WET.
Good Luck BMI..you may need some by mid winter.
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Hey leave the BFS guys alone they got abuse from aircrew for years who didn’t even know they where Primary. As it was put to me by a retiring ATCO, four ears in the cockpit and two in the tower, it just means that the controller has to say everything twice.
When was the last time you visited ATC, any ATC unit? I think you’ll find it a little more than sitting on ones rear drinking coffee/tea and eating sodas (P in A, bless ya). I give them lots of respect, when the brown stuff hits N1 they get ya on the ground. I don’t think they get paid enough for the job…..
Yours
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P.S. Any parties coming up?
Hey leave the BFS guys alone they got abuse from aircrew for years who didn’t even know they where Primary. As it was put to me by a retiring ATCO, four ears in the cockpit and two in the tower, it just means that the controller has to say everything twice.
When was the last time you visited ATC, any ATC unit? I think you’ll find it a little more than sitting on ones rear drinking coffee/tea and eating sodas (P in A, bless ya). I give them lots of respect, when the brown stuff hits N1 they get ya on the ground. I don’t think they get paid enough for the job…..
Yours
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P.S. Any parties coming up?
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No need for any ATCO at BFS to worry. You only have to look at the load factors on EZY and GOE to realise that BMI is yesterdays airline. They obviously can't compete with todays budget conscious businessman who doesn't want to fork out £300 rtn on a flight to LHR only to get stuck in the hold at BNN for about 30mins.
As for BHD they are loosing their British regional service to PF and PH cause they like wise can't compete with GOE. Who want to pay £240 rtn to Glasgow when they can pay around £60 rtn with GOE. The Scottish routes have been a rip off for years.
I also hear that Jea are stopping their SS route, and BRT will be pulling out of the GD route when GOE starts.
I think that leaves BMI their on their own and EZY with a load more pilots to pick up!!!!!
As for BHD they are loosing their British regional service to PF and PH cause they like wise can't compete with GOE. Who want to pay £240 rtn to Glasgow when they can pay around £60 rtn with GOE. The Scottish routes have been a rip off for years.
I also hear that Jea are stopping their SS route, and BRT will be pulling out of the GD route when GOE starts.
I think that leaves BMI their on their own and EZY with a load more pilots to pick up!!!!!
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I think that everyone seems to be argueing either for or against bmi's decision. Well I am going to sit on the fence!! The facts are that bmi were getting charged something like £9 per passenger at BFS, yet Go and EZY were getting charged £3. Fair comment that bmi probably had an airbridge etc but for every A321 load (195 x £9) = £1755. If Go had an A321 they would be charged £585 per load. Today's airline industry is cut throat and I think that bmi were right to feel agrieved by this. However, as much as a move to BHD will hurt BFS, I just wonder if it will hurt bmi more?? Airlines such as Go and EZY are excellent for your average passenger as BA and bmi's fares sometimes border on ridiculous, but surely everyone should be playing on a level playing field.
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In the drink yes the controllers at BFS are generally very good but one or two are lousy, a certain watch springs to mind, lets face it the fact that they are still argueing with scotish is not a good reflection on their proffesionalisum.(sorry about the spelling but as a pilot I have just come back from the pub!!) As you say the Sh.. does hit the N1 occasionally but guess who has to sorts it out first, guess who is the first at the scene of the accident. Dont try to slate RM, I'm sure like my self he has been predudiced against by BFS just because he is landing at BHD as opposed to BFS. 
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Surface wind,
You sound perfectly balanced with a chip on each shoulder about bmi.
Can you not understand that the move was nothing to do with easy or go taking passengers,it was the relationship with BFS.
P.S. I'd rather fly test Pilot for Airfix than with easy.
You sound perfectly balanced with a chip on each shoulder about bmi.
Can you not understand that the move was nothing to do with easy or go taking passengers,it was the relationship with BFS.
P.S. I'd rather fly test Pilot for Airfix than with easy.
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Only balanced when not in the pub, chips, yes but only after 10 pints!!!
Phillipa Hole
Which Watch(s) are you talking about, as for Scottish everyone at BFS is just trying to protect their jobs
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Only balanced when not in the pub, chips, yes but only after 10 pints!!!
Phillipa Hole
Which Watch(s) are you talking about, as for Scottish everyone at BFS is just trying to protect their jobs
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Thank you so much for jumping to my defence but i think you'll find that rm & ph are just trying to wind little old me up!!
U C they can always go the whole way when i'm on unless of course gorgeous should pitch up in the meantime!
Phillipa hole,if you wanna see how we get on with Scottish,you have the perfect opportunity this Thursday afternoon in the Crown.Beer,beer & more beer. everyone welcome!
And i think you'll find it's the guy's with the big hoses who get there first,i should know.
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Thank you so much for jumping to my defence but i think you'll find that rm & ph are just trying to wind little old me up!!
U C they can always go the whole way when i'm on unless of course gorgeous should pitch up in the meantime!
Phillipa hole,if you wanna see how we get on with Scottish,you have the perfect opportunity this Thursday afternoon in the Crown.Beer,beer & more beer.
everyone welcome!And i think you'll find it's the guy's with the big hoses who get there first,i should know.
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Ah well you can only please some people some of the time!
What did i do to offend you idle?
Does I know your Julie Ahi!
Is it cause you've got no thrust and I can keepitlit.
Better to burn out than fade away
P.S Idle I love the way you hide behind your prunne idenity without an address or details.
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What did i do to offend you idle?
Does I know your Julie Ahi!
Is it cause you've got no thrust and I can keepitlit.
Better to burn out than fade away
P.S Idle I love the way you hide behind your prunne idenity without an address or details.
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On the same note as the BMI pullout to BHD, just heard that Sabena have binned their 3 x daily Brussels service from BFS, with effect from the start of the winter schedule.
Not surprised at the BMI move as TBI have become greedier & greedier recently, losing this particular battle with their own breed of arrogance.
They're hurting. Believe me.
The Sabena withdrawal will simply add salt to their wounds.
How ironic as well of course, that the current MD of BFS (Mr Albert Harrison) at one time held the same position at BHD ???
Not surprised at the BMI move as TBI have become greedier & greedier recently, losing this particular battle with their own breed of arrogance.
They're hurting. Believe me.
The Sabena withdrawal will simply add salt to their wounds.
How ironic as well of course, that the current MD of BFS (Mr Albert Harrison) at one time held the same position at BHD ???
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Anne
As i don't personally work for TBI,i am by no means defending them,but as a business, surely they are not running airports for the fun of it, or just to provide the public with a service.
Also did the article on the other thread not state that Vinci had made an approach before bmi announced their move & they are still interested?
I notice with interest your bemoaning about another large airport owner a while back, i'll watch & see what you think about how Bombardier/Shorts run BHD.Needless to say you will definately need plenty of support & sheepskin there but do me a favour, don't take it out on ATC,it's not their fault.
Finally good luck to all you bmi guys & gals out there,i hope the move is everything you want it to be
As i don't personally work for TBI,i am by no means defending them,but as a business, surely they are not running airports for the fun of it, or just to provide the public with a service.
Also did the article on the other thread not state that Vinci had made an approach before bmi announced their move & they are still interested?
I notice with interest your bemoaning about another large airport owner a while back, i'll watch & see what you think about how Bombardier/Shorts run BHD.Needless to say you will definately need plenty of support & sheepskin there but do me a favour, don't take it out on ATC,it's not their fault.
Finally good luck to all you bmi guys & gals out there,i hope the move is everything you want it to be
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Lets hope we can all remain friends after all this childish bickering over which airport bmi operate from. Why are ATC so annoyed anyway as far as I know you are employed by the NATS.
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I dont think friendly is bitter just correcting some points which others took up the wrong way!
Respect to all AHI!!
P.S. Thrust idle I'm off to sit in front of the mirror to the rest of you that means lates.You are the weakest link goodbye
Respect to all AHI!!
P.S. Thrust idle I'm off to sit in front of the mirror to the rest of you that means lates.You are the weakest link goodbye
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Rafat
How nice to hear from you again and what a good day for you to reappear.....from what i heard from that one frequency i listen to (apparently)surface wind was 170 30 to 40kts & it's only August!
K.I.L.
Thanks for the post babe.
Apparently a bus did a spectacular go around on 17 today,may the force be with you
Thinking of organising a local PPrune bash, what do ya think?
If you've got another appointment with your mirror tomorrow,speak to you then
How nice to hear from you again and what a good day for you to reappear.....from what i heard from that one frequency i listen to (apparently)surface wind was 170 30 to 40kts & it's only August!
K.I.L.
Thanks for the post babe.
Apparently a bus did a spectacular go around on 17 today,may the force be with you
Thinking of organising a local PPrune bash, what do ya think?
If you've got another appointment with your mirror tomorrow,speak to you then