BA & Virgin to restart Baghdad service?
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Sir Wichard Beard making lots of PR on the UK news about VS planning to operate to BGW.
Last UK scheduled flights that I remember were BA Tristar's back in late 1980's. Don't they still hold the route licences ? I haven't seen anything in the CAA Official Records which show that he has applied for the licence.
But then really meaning to operate shouldn't get in the way of a good bit of PR should it ?
My guess is that we will see a scheduled BA 767 there before long.
Last UK scheduled flights that I remember were BA Tristar's back in late 1980's. Don't they still hold the route licences ? I haven't seen anything in the CAA Official Records which show that he has applied for the licence.
But then really meaning to operate shouldn't get in the way of a good bit of PR should it ?
My guess is that we will see a scheduled BA 767 there before long.

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More self publicity from the bearded one i think.
i seem to remember that he was going to buy BA when their shares hit £3 - they are now at £1.20 - off to the bank for the dosh then Mr B.
Oh, and now he wants to but concorde for £1 - again more self publicity.
Any of us could but ccde for a quid, that's the easy bit - running it at a profit is what is hard.
But give him his due, he IS very good at publicity. It's just a shame that it never seems to amount to anything.
yet!
i seem to remember that he was going to buy BA when their shares hit £3 - they are now at £1.20 - off to the bank for the dosh then Mr B.
Oh, and now he wants to but concorde for £1 - again more self publicity.
Any of us could but ccde for a quid, that's the easy bit - running it at a profit is what is hard.
But give him his due, he IS very good at publicity. It's just a shame that it never seems to amount to anything.
yet!

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Hear hear the mans a complete joke, anything for a bit of publicity pity the media give him any credance!!.About time he started treating and paying his staff properly.


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Whilst I wouldn't want anyone to think I'm a Virgin lover (damn - that was another of those publicity stickers wasn't it) but maybe PSYCOBFH is being a little disingenuous. The bearded one is running an airline that's still in business and keeping people in employment.
That's a bit of an achievement in itself, isn't it?
That's a bit of an achievement in itself, isn't it?
Why is it that people who are good at publicity get up others' noses so much? Pooh-poohing Branson's skill at it doesn't diminish his achievements and in this particular case it just takes the posting off-topic.
Now think for a minute about a London Baghdad link. That route is likely to go off the charts for the next five years. And well over half the payload are likely to be US citizens. Would you prefer it just be left to AA and UA?
Now think for a minute about a London Baghdad link. That route is likely to go off the charts for the next five years. And well over half the payload are likely to be US citizens. Would you prefer it just be left to AA and UA?

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I notice he has painted on the side of some of his a/c :
'More experience than our name suggests' !
Makes me smile whenever I taxi past them .....
You got to hand it to the chap, he built up the airline himself against all odds from emense competion from a nationalized airline .......
Try reading his autobiography ..... he is not just a chap in a woolly jumper ! (Not that he will need that in Baghdad !).
'More experience than our name suggests' !
Makes me smile whenever I taxi past them .....
You got to hand it to the chap, he built up the airline himself against all odds from emense competion from a nationalized airline .......
Try reading his autobiography ..... he is not just a chap in a woolly jumper ! (Not that he will need that in Baghdad !).

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Love him or hate him.....you've got to admire his marketing skills in never missing an opportunity.
With all the foreign aid that is going to be pumped into Iraq, the salesman with his foot in the door is going to reap the benefits of being the 'early bird'.
Pity Mr PM & Big Air Birdways weren't in there first offering humanitarian support & free flights to Iraqi refugees wanting to return to their homeland.
If Big Air Birdways do still hold the licences to Baghdad you can bet your bottom dollar that The Bearded One will put up a good flight in the name of humanitarianism.....
Go get 'em Dicky.....
With all the foreign aid that is going to be pumped into Iraq, the salesman with his foot in the door is going to reap the benefits of being the 'early bird'.
Pity Mr PM & Big Air Birdways weren't in there first offering humanitarian support & free flights to Iraqi refugees wanting to return to their homeland.
If Big Air Birdways do still hold the licences to Baghdad you can bet your bottom dollar that The Bearded One will put up a good flight in the name of humanitarianism.....
Go get 'em Dicky.....



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My moneys on Bmed being there within a year.
This is really their sort of thing. They have still been operating to Amman, Beirut, Damascus and Tehran during the entirety of the conflict
This is really their sort of thing. They have still been operating to Amman, Beirut, Damascus and Tehran during the entirety of the conflict

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Virgin operated a number of humanitarian flights into Kuwait at the end of the last Gulf war; why should the proposal to do the same kind of thing now be so controversial? They will have to be operated by someone, and I believe that the humanitarian flights will be at no cost to Iraq or the charities and humanitarian organisations who will use them.
As for ongoing commercial operations, surely any existing UK-Iraq route licences will be null and void and new ones will need negotiating? With the scale of the reconstruction effort likely to be huge, there will be room for many airlines from many countries to operate into Baghdad, and other Iraqi airports. Virgin is simply the first of the high-profile carriers to announce its intentions. There will be many others.
As for ongoing commercial operations, surely any existing UK-Iraq route licences will be null and void and new ones will need negotiating? With the scale of the reconstruction effort likely to be huge, there will be room for many airlines from many countries to operate into Baghdad, and other Iraqi airports. Virgin is simply the first of the high-profile carriers to announce its intentions. There will be many others.

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Digitalis-The old agreements do still stand.look at former yugoslavia-all agreements are still in place, even those that were implemented during Milosovic, same with Afghanistan, although they have created new ones, since ariana got new aircraft, but they still operate on old agreements, therefore ba has the upper hand at the mo and bearing in mind that last new mainline route to open was heathrow to luanda (angola).

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BA to restart Baghdad service
LONDON (AP) -- British Airways said Sunday it will resume flights from London to Baghdad as soon as it is assured by the British government that Iraq is stable.
The airline canceled its service between the two capitals shortly before the 1991 Gulf War.
Rod Eddington, British Airways' chief executive, said the airline has been in discussions with the British government about providing relief flights and resuming scheduled services to Baghdad. "We have a long history of flying to Iraq and are keen to re-establish regular services as soon as political stability and security return to the country," said Eddington. "We have the rights to fly to Iraq and we are now awaiting confirmation from the British government that it is safe to return."
The airline plans to operate a Boeing 767 three times a week from London's Heathrow Airport to Baghdad.
British Airways first suspended flights to Baghdad during the Iran-Iraq war. The service resumed in November 1988 but was halted again in February 1990.
The airline canceled its service between the two capitals shortly before the 1991 Gulf War.
Rod Eddington, British Airways' chief executive, said the airline has been in discussions with the British government about providing relief flights and resuming scheduled services to Baghdad. "We have a long history of flying to Iraq and are keen to re-establish regular services as soon as political stability and security return to the country," said Eddington. "We have the rights to fly to Iraq and we are now awaiting confirmation from the British government that it is safe to return."
The airline plans to operate a Boeing 767 three times a week from London's Heathrow Airport to Baghdad.
British Airways first suspended flights to Baghdad during the Iran-Iraq war. The service resumed in November 1988 but was halted again in February 1990.
