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Old 20th Jan 2001, 05:32
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UPS just started a class of new-hires, about 6 out of 25 were from Atlas, at this rate they'll be nobody there to fly anyway
 
Old 20th Jan 2001, 08:00
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411A,
I wouldn't worry too much about the domestic US cargo. We have always had more cargo coming into the US and the cargo we hauled from the US just repositioned the aircraft. Just check the US import export levels from the Treasury Department and not just my six years of flying at Atlas. All but one of those years at Atlas had record setting returns.

Roc,
I wish I was going to UPS. Dealing with the BS Lorenzo management types and their pawns at Atlas and AACS is getting old. If the numbers are correct, I have heard that there is a 37% turnover of pilots within the first year of employment at Atlas. I have had offers in Asia, but they seem to have the same expat - versus union employee problems coming to a head just like Atlas. I would never put myself into one of those AACS versus Mainline Atlas situations.
 
Old 20th Jan 2001, 12:26
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Dear Beaver Driver: You mentioned that my facts suck. If I remember correctly I asked if the RUMOURS were more or less correct ref cancelation AZ/MH contracts. If not, well thanks; question answered.
Magic Blue: I believe Polar offered us their new -400; they did one flight for us this year; both parties satisfied. I'm told however that they are too expensive for a regular deal. So, looks like continuing with AFX for the moment (nice blokes to work with).

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Old 21st Jan 2001, 02:23
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Rat,had heard the rumour on the Polar,thanks for confirming that.They are using -400Fs on the atlantic routes as the pacific routes are quiet.Also heard that you guys spoke with Atlas last month on buying spare hours on one of their 400s to be leased to another carrier with only partial utilisation.
Back to the subject,I hope that you guys can resolve your differences.You do a dynamite job for us,long may it continue.
 
Old 21st Jan 2001, 16:52
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Magic Blue: I just dropped you an email.

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Old 22nd Jan 2001, 15:10
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I wonder........ When the furlough begins (mainline olny), will you want me to tell you what will happen next, or will you still think that I am a moron?

 
Old 22nd Jan 2001, 20:54
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Go ahead MOVE_IT, you should tell the 'uninformed" what will happen next. Think you have been around a long time (like myself) and have seen it many times before. New guys have a lot to learn and, the older ones there should know better.
 
Old 24th Jan 2001, 19:50
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In an effort to keep stirring the pot the following are the Rumours de Jour:

Current AACS 200 FO's are being retrained on the 400. No more hiring at AACS is planned this year. Check the hammerhead at Hahn mates!

[This message has been edited by Ct.Yankee (edited 24 January 2001).]
 
Old 24th Jan 2001, 20:27
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Company avoided answering if it was an AACS crew operating the 747 that slid off the runway in Hahn. So it probably was.

[This message has been edited by palerider (edited 25 January 2001).]
 
Old 25th Jan 2001, 03:34
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You donīt like them AACS guys, do you?
If you were offered a position while jobless, would you take it?
Or would wait for another airline offering you a position and stay home?
Stop all this sh... and enjoy flying. Youīll sleep better.
 
Old 25th Jan 2001, 03:51
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D E N V E R - 24JAN2001 (AirlineBiz.Com) According to reports, a
jet piloted by Michael A Chowdry, Chairman, President and CEO of Atlas
Air crashed today near Denver. There was one other person on board who
was also killed in the crash. The jet was a L-39 Czech jet trainer
which took off at 11:20 a.m. CST. There were no eyewitness accounts
until 11:27 a.m., when another aircraft reported that the plane had
crashed just south of Interstate 70, about five miles from the airport.
The plane was based at Front Range, six miles southeast of Denver
International Airport.

For this and other news go to:

Airline News Wire: http://AirlineBiz.com/wire

 
Old 25th Jan 2001, 08:20
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Big,

If it isn't obvious, I do not like the AACS guys. Yes I have been unemployed with a family to feed due to furloughs and company bankruptcies. Yes, I have turned down jobs as a strike breaker i.e. EAL. I have retained my character and still provided for my family without screwing a fellow pilot at the same company. I can't say the same for the AACS guys who are taking away upgrades for my junior comrades and are to be our replacements when we strike.
 
Old 26th Jan 2001, 01:06
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per the reference to the Atlas -200 that departed the runway at Hahn in December, it was indeed an AACS crew, confirmed by a loadmaster working at Hahn on the day it happened. Funny how the mmgt at Atlas has kept this particular episode quiet--most have no clue it happened. Something to hide?
 
Old 26th Jan 2001, 02:28
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How did you provided?
Maybe I like the idea and instead of working, I can stay home and enjoy life... No, I donīt think so. My problem is that I LOVE this job... and the cancer of this bussiness, (Iīve been through two airline closings already)has always been the same: UNIONS. Great job guys. Keep on fighting for OUR rights... or YOUR idea of how a company MUST be managed...
Why donīt you just go FLYING and really ENJOY LIFE?
If you donīt like it, you can always quit and let your juniors progress... youīll provide anyway, donīt you?
Blue skies, pal!
 
Old 26th Jan 2001, 07:50
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Big,

You are a fine example of the infamous "pilot whore." Always looking for that bigger aircraft to fly and not giving a flip about who you are screwing in the process. It seems I have heard all your lines from scabs at two other carriers. The excuses never seem to change and those guys end up regretting what they have done. You seem to be of the same mind as them.

See you on the line----Pal
 
Old 26th Jan 2001, 22:31
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Sorry palerider, wrong move: Iīm the other way around! I was flying the bigger airplanes (B-737) and now Iīm flying a "big ATR72". (in the airline I fly for, the 72 is the big one).
Is not a matter of how big, is how much you enjoy it. I donīt mind flying an ultralight or a heavy jet, as long as is flying. And Iīve been in this bussiness more than twenty years already and I like it more and more... no matter the size.
Have fun!!!
 
Old 10th May 2001, 02:49
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Please go to the first page of this thread and read the 11th post (my second)

It begins
 
Old 10th May 2001, 05:25
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What are you saying? Atlas is furloughing?
 
Old 10th May 2001, 05:41
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Kaptain K---
The US domestic cargo business is NOT likely to get any better anytime soon and Atlas, with 12 aircraft parked, what do you think?
 
Old 10th May 2001, 08:29
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Heard the BIG F word earlier today, feel sorry for some of the guys that have not managed to escape yet..
 


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