Landing a MD-11 (the hard way is not funny...)
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Landing a MD-11 (the hard way is not funny...)
Take a look at this clip and try to make a reasonable assesment as of what happened to this Alitalia MD-11.. .. .<a href="http://www.nlc-campus.nl/md11.mpg" target="_blank">http://www.nlc-campus.nl/md11.mpg</a>
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The FCOM is pretty specific - establish the crab early, as it adds so much drag that you may be surprised by the sink rate it causes. . .. .Also, below 50 feet the autothrottles go to idle, so the sink rate can really ramp up with no power to compensate. And we can't go manual throttles, can we?. .. .These new airplanes really fly themselves. My guess is a habitual (or company-procedural) over-reliance on autoland - which has to be turned off above 15 kts crosswind. So you learn to fly the plane in the worst possible conditions.. .. .I've had instructor pilots tell me there is no reason to maintain hand-flying skills in the MD-11. I'll send them this clip.
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Please could you forewarn people when there is a big file to download. For anyone else it is 4.62MB and takes around 20 mins. I also wasn't too charmed when, at 99% downloaded, it suddenly flashed up the message that access to the file was denied and promptly shut it down - any idea why? It has since taken forever to get the reply screen to appear. I'm off to run a virus check. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="mad.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="confused.gif" />
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>>Please could you forewarn people when there is a big file to download. For anyone else it is 4.62MB and takes around 20 mins.. .. .Well, it ran fine and loaded almost instantly over a cable modem. I've had highspeed internet in hotel rooms in Asia lately, sometimes absolutely free. The airport in SIN has wireless if you have a card.. .. .I will admit that the concept of connecting a computer to the Internet is still a rather novel concept in many places in Europe. A local call often costs a euro a minute from a hotel room. You can expect a video clip to be a large file for a slow dialup connection but at least some "friend" didn't e-mail it to you and bomb your inbox...
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Took me about 10 min to load, with a plain old dial up connection. Before everyone wades in with pithy comments on how badly the PF did that day , ask your self this question. Would you be happy if video of your worst landing ever was broadcast around the world ,to be replayed again and again ?. .I have dented my fair share of runways over the years so I am not going to throw any stones from my ( very ) transparent house.
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to DX Wombat. .. .Well sorry about that! It takes me less than 2 min to download and play the clip which by the way it's crystal clear with a great sound. I guess is my ADSL(220 kbps) connection and the 500 Mhz machine that helps. It appears that your server(internet provider) has limited acces to www !?
Took me less than four minutes to load and play. If someone ever taped every grauncher I've ever done, 'twould take longer than that. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="smile.gif" />
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No problems at all. DLS here loads up to 756 kbit/sec, windows media player 7.1 jumps in and superfast machine plays a nice movie with a . .scary touchdown. Tires seem ok. What irritates me: he touches just on runway edge downwind side just avoiding right maingear in the green?
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Im always the first to admit that i'm not perfect. I mean, we all do the odd bad landing every now and then. I've certainly had more than my share... While this one is pretty shocking, I have seen, and been a passenger on aircraft that have done worse... I was on a Qantas Link Bae146 landing in Brisbane in August last year. I believe we touched down about 5 times. First was the R-main with a thud, causing all the lights to flicker, and overhead bins to open. The pilot overcorrected, and now (floating back in the air with nothing on the ground) he crunches the L-main down, with the R-main airborne again. Then, before the R-Main gets back on the ground, the nose gear bangs down, and there is an ear piercing crunching metal noise. R-Main touches down, about 2 feet from the side of the runway. It didnt bother me to much, but there were other passengers screaming, and the flight attendants looked a tad nervous... Probably didnt help the Captain and FO's egos, when as the passengers exited the aircraft, and walked towards the terminal, there were 2 drunk ones (not me) laughing and pointing up at the flight deck from outside at the front of the aircraft. The aircraft also sat on an awkward angle.... .Anyway... as embarrasing as it might be... everyone does them... Its like farting in public.. sometimes you cant help it!
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If you look very carefully, the smoke from the tyres seems to drift pretty rapidly from left to right.. .. .Also, whilst the aircraft is rolling down the runway, you'll see that in to view come four yellow lights, behind the third of which there's a windsock.. .If you watch that windsock you'll note that it goes from hanging limp (at the moment of the aircraft touchdown) to horizontal 5 seconds later - though it's not clear if that's due to a gust of wind or as a result of the aircraft's wake.. .. .So, with the proviso that 'people in glass houses.....' et al, perhaps we can be generous and say that it looks like it might have been a quite gusty day - but that said, it's amazing to see just how much punishment the oleos can soak up if needs be. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />
I do not see any real problem with this one, sure for the pax a little rough, however given its in to Hong Kong from either the NDB Rwy 13 or the 13 IGS approach with some X/W, not too bad.Also its on a Monday! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="tongue.gif" />
