Ryanair. The best thing since sliced bread?
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Is it true that Ryan Air management are prepared to accept a hull loss as a trade off for lowering standards in the flight deck? Fast tracking people into positions they may not necessarily be ready for?
Any comments from people in the training department, and what kind of pressure have you been put under to get results?
Any comments from people in the training department, and what kind of pressure have you been put under to get results?
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I've read allmost all the messages in this section but there's still the question from the beginning (do'nt remember the name) what you can expect during the interview. Please give us some info about this. I'm having the interview this week, i'm a low timer and will defenitly take the job when they offer it to me. pls be fast and tell me what they ask?
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Yellowbird if you're prepared to go and work for a company that can (and will) fire you for no good reason, actively seek that you exceed 900hrs a year etc go knock yourself out. Alternatively you could try banging your head off a brick wall. Good luck.
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Ryanair Pilot employment contract states that you as a pilotagree to only 4 (FOUR) crews will be employed per acft. IAA FCL only allow 900 hrs/pilot/year. However FRs -800 from STN do 6 sectors/day averaging 2hrs/sector. Multiply by 6 days = 72hrs, + 4 sectors on Sunday = 80hrs /acft/week. Multiply by 50wks(its easier) = 4000hrs/acft/year. BUT, you've all signed a contract agreeing to 4 crews/acft, AND you can only do 900hrs/year. My maths tells me 4x900 =3600hrs. Where do the other 400hrs go? I bet DOB & MOL won't tell you.
Still haven't heard about the guy they gave 'services no longer required' at 0635 one Sun morning in Jan without notice. Any thoughts or facts?
Still haven't heard about the guy they gave 'services no longer required' at 0635 one Sun morning in Jan without notice. Any thoughts or facts?
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CaptSensible....
Nice one my man....one message thread ended, because of the amount of postings on it (surely this shows interest) and you start the ball rolling all over again with more Anti-Fr writings. BTW, how come you only posted some of the negative sections of the article on Ryanair and not one of the positive ones..!!! Picky or what..
Give us all a break, I hate the weather here in Ireland just as much as you hate Ryanair...but for Gods sake, I am not constantly complaining about,
To help with your pain.. I recommend some valium, rest and no PC use for about 4 weeks, you should notice a huge upturn in your mood and may even start enjoying life
Nice one my man....one message thread ended, because of the amount of postings on it (surely this shows interest) and you start the ball rolling all over again with more Anti-Fr writings. BTW, how come you only posted some of the negative sections of the article on Ryanair and not one of the positive ones..!!! Picky or what..
Give us all a break, I hate the weather here in Ireland just as much as you hate Ryanair...but for Gods sake, I am not constantly complaining about,
To help with your pain.. I recommend some valium, rest and no PC use for about 4 weeks, you should notice a huge upturn in your mood and may even start enjoying life
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Just out of interest, 4 crews per A/C that's 4 Capt's and 4 Fo's by 50 that's 400 souls.
Firstly how are they going to find that many people and secondly assuming that they're not going to be type-rating or logged on to Ryan Air's SOP's, train them?
I'll put money on it that they won't all be British or from the Republic
Firstly how are they going to find that many people and secondly assuming that they're not going to be type-rating or logged on to Ryan Air's SOP's, train them?
I'll put money on it that they won't all be British or from the Republic
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Yer a gas man Flame (ooo'er...could be a volatile mix, 
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I haven't posted on this thread since page 2.
Maybe you think I'm out there forcing everyone to write negative comments about FR, huh?
Ok. I admit it. I'm really awful aren't I.
). I haven't posted on this thread since page 2.
Maybe you think I'm out there forcing everyone to write negative comments about FR, huh?
Ok. I admit it. I'm really awful aren't I.
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Hello,
Am I the only one in the world who thinks FR are demoralising the traditions of flight. They cut out all the bits that make flying fun and just make it like a frickin bus journey.Air travel will become so much a part of every day life it will not be a special experience....
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Loco.
Am I the only one in the world who thinks FR are demoralising the traditions of flight. They cut out all the bits that make flying fun and just make it like a frickin bus journey.Air travel will become so much a part of every day life it will not be a special experience....
Later,
Loco.
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Flame as much as I admire your constant upholding of the FR principles etc (which baffles me but anyway), it's like car insurance in our lovely little country - there's no point saying "stop complaining" unless you have something constructive to offer.
Now Ryanair are very efficient - it's a given - all flights get prioritised stands at DUB, ground crew are all ready to go there's virtually no delay for pax to get off, bags etc. Very good indeed. But there's something wrong when a company gets its own ego over inflated enough to think that they can treat their staff like the proverbial and get away with it. It sets a precedent (I'm repeating myself now) for ALL their employees and anyone else who wants to start a "low fares" [sic] airline. It's time that FR management stopped acting silly beggars and come into line with the rest of the industry or there'll be no more figures like there was this year....have load factors gone up from their lowest of 50-60% on certain routes from DUB last year? Why won't MOL spend the money on new aircraft? Is he worried about future earnings??
Now Ryanair are very efficient - it's a given - all flights get prioritised stands at DUB, ground crew are all ready to go there's virtually no delay for pax to get off, bags etc. Very good indeed. But there's something wrong when a company gets its own ego over inflated enough to think that they can treat their staff like the proverbial and get away with it. It sets a precedent (I'm repeating myself now) for ALL their employees and anyone else who wants to start a "low fares" [sic] airline. It's time that FR management stopped acting silly beggars and come into line with the rest of the industry or there'll be no more figures like there was this year....have load factors gone up from their lowest of 50-60% on certain routes from DUB last year? Why won't MOL spend the money on new aircraft? Is he worried about future earnings??
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Capt Sensible..
Me thinks your not forcing anyone to do anything, but surely even you are getting fed up writing the same old dribble all the time...Remember...valium, and the "no PC rule " just for a few weeks at least..
Minuteman
I think if you check out the actual load factors you will find them nearer to %81 and not the 50-60% as you state, also surely you are not calling B737-800 old aircraft
"Why won't MOL spend the money on new aircraft? Is he worried about future earnings??"
In case you have not noticed, prices for second hand aircraft are currently falling faster than the value of the Euro and from a commercial point of view it makes good business sense to "play the field" and obtain these aircraft at a cheaper price than the 800'S, these 737-300/400's are actually replacing the -200's. and as for your comment about future earnings...I certainly hope that he has this in mind, he is answerable to shareholders and is running a PLC not a Charitable organisation, perhaps if EI had been run the same way, it would not find itself in the present quagmire it is in
Me thinks your not forcing anyone to do anything, but surely even you are getting fed up writing the same old dribble all the time...Remember...valium, and the "no PC rule " just for a few weeks at least..
Minuteman
I think if you check out the actual load factors you will find them nearer to %81 and not the 50-60% as you state, also surely you are not calling B737-800 old aircraft
"Why won't MOL spend the money on new aircraft? Is he worried about future earnings??"
In case you have not noticed, prices for second hand aircraft are currently falling faster than the value of the Euro and from a commercial point of view it makes good business sense to "play the field" and obtain these aircraft at a cheaper price than the 800'S, these 737-300/400's are actually replacing the -200's. and as for your comment about future earnings...I certainly hope that he has this in mind, he is answerable to shareholders and is running a PLC not a Charitable organisation, perhaps if EI had been run the same way, it would not find itself in the present quagmire it is in
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Flame fair enough and no, -800s are certainly not old - I'd like to get my hands on one! But I stand by my load factor figures (from y/e 2000.)
As for MOL being answerable to ANYBODY I can't wait for the day!!! He doesn't particularly seem to care about anyone else at the minute...
As for MOL being answerable to ANYBODY I can't wait for the day!!! He doesn't particularly seem to care about anyone else at the minute...
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OK Flame, if it'll make you happy I'll just retire.
No seriously...I'd been thinking about it anyhow. Got tired of this old sensible name...maybe I'll try something different.
So Danny or £6, would you mind doing the necessary and putting me out of your misery. Go ahead, it would be an act of mercy.
Bye all, it's been fun.
No seriously...I'd been thinking about it anyhow. Got tired of this old sensible name...maybe I'll try something different.
So Danny or £6, would you mind doing the necessary and putting me out of your misery. Go ahead, it would be an act of mercy.
Bye all, it's been fun.
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Capt Sensible;
Come on...please dont go...who will I have banter with then...???? (putting my sabre away for good)
Stand by your man..
To be honest, I went away on business, got back and found the thread closed, and then lost interest, but it was fun while it lasted
Come on...please dont go...who will I have banter with then...???? (putting my sabre away for good)
Stand by your man..
To be honest, I went away on business, got back and found the thread closed, and then lost interest, but it was fun while it lasted