The Guvnor in the news again!
That is another Neil Robertson
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Air Transport Management MSc Research Thesis Topics
Academic Year 1996/1997
Neil ROBERTSON (1996/97):An analysis of the effect of franchising on the UK-Domestic and UK-EU markets
Is this our man or is he an innocent bystander?
Anyone on the Cranfield course care to comment?
Academic Year 1996/1997
Neil ROBERTSON (1996/97):An analysis of the effect of franchising on the UK-Domestic and UK-EU markets
Is this our man or is he an innocent bystander?
Anyone on the Cranfield course care to comment?
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From Neil D Robertsons CV circa 2000:
Also from Neil D Robertson, this thread: http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...%40iafrica.com made 26th September 1996 from South Africa.
...and...
...this thread from Neil D Robertson, this thread: http://groups.google.com/groups?q=nr...ei.com&rnum=14 made 23rd September 1996 from South Africa.
Just so as you do not confuse the two, the email address is the same as well as the boasts about being a pilot (Robertson has never studied, been taught or examined for ANY professional pilots licence).
To confirm that Robertson claimed to be working as CEO
of Lionair Limited in South Africa read this post: http://groups.google.com/groups?q=nr...ca.com&rnum=26 made 3rd October 1996 from South Africa.
Just so as there is no confusion, this post was also made by Robertson, searching for his birth mother. It is the link to his preadoptive name Giles C Michie: http://groups.google.com/groups?q=nr...ca.com&rnum=28 made 11th February 1996 from South Africa.
So we come to the link of Neil D Robertson aka Giles C Michie and Africargo airlines in this post by Giles Michie using the email address of [email protected] here: http://www.network54.com/Hide/Forum/...geid=944390506 made 5th December 1999 from ? The Ip address isn't resolving but if someone can find out where 194.78.100.68 is. I think it might be Belgium.
What is also disturbing are the claims made by Robertson posting as 'Ceilidh' on airliners.net where he states:
As can be seen by the dates he quotes that in early 1998 he was in Gabon. You can read the whole thread at http://www.airliners.net/discussions...d.main/337981/ but please be patient as it takes a while to load. In that post you will realise that Neil D Robertson has a penchant for lying and pretending to be something he isn't. He posts as Ceilidh which he has never denied and we all know that he posts as SAS23 but pay a lot of attention to the posts by Lawyergal. It is a very interesting read if you can wind your way past all the spotter type posts in it.
So, decide if Neil D Robertson aka The Guvnor and countless other identities did ever attend Cranfield.
CHIEF EXECUTIVE YEARS EMPLOYED (EX: 1996 - PRESENT)
AFRICARGO AIRLINES JOHANNESBURG, SOUTH AFRICA
Leased and operated a number of aircraft on routes from Southern Africa to Europe. Acquired Translloyd Cargo Corporation of the British Virgin Islands, which owned four Canadair CL44-D4 swingtail aircraft. Evaluated the possible takeover of African International Airlines; and drew up a proposal for the flotation of the company on the South African Stock Exchange.
Designed and produced the Africargo Airlines website.
AFRICARGO AIRLINES JOHANNESBURG, SOUTH AFRICA
Leased and operated a number of aircraft on routes from Southern Africa to Europe. Acquired Translloyd Cargo Corporation of the British Virgin Islands, which owned four Canadair CL44-D4 swingtail aircraft. Evaluated the possible takeover of African International Airlines; and drew up a proposal for the flotation of the company on the South African Stock Exchange.
Designed and produced the Africargo Airlines website.
...and...
...this thread from Neil D Robertson, this thread: http://groups.google.com/groups?q=nr...ei.com&rnum=14 made 23rd September 1996 from South Africa.
Just so as you do not confuse the two, the email address is the same as well as the boasts about being a pilot (Robertson has never studied, been taught or examined for ANY professional pilots licence).
To confirm that Robertson claimed to be working as CEO
of Lionair Limited in South Africa read this post: http://groups.google.com/groups?q=nr...ca.com&rnum=26 made 3rd October 1996 from South Africa.Just so as there is no confusion, this post was also made by Robertson, searching for his birth mother. It is the link to his preadoptive name Giles C Michie: http://groups.google.com/groups?q=nr...ca.com&rnum=28 made 11th February 1996 from South Africa.
So we come to the link of Neil D Robertson aka Giles C Michie and Africargo airlines in this post by Giles Michie using the email address of [email protected] here: http://www.network54.com/Hide/Forum/...geid=944390506 made 5th December 1999 from ? The Ip address isn't resolving but if someone can find out where 194.78.100.68 is. I think it might be Belgium.
What is also disturbing are the claims made by Robertson posting as 'Ceilidh' on airliners.net where he states:
My former girlfriend, Arina van Aswegen - whom I have referred to in the past on here as my "psycho ex" - set herself up as a Y2K consultant in early 1998, and did contract work for a major retailer, a local banking group and a global IT firm. However, she lacked many of the skills that she claimed she had, and after being fired by all three of her clients she was subsequently sued by the retail group for breach of contract and damages after causing serious damage to several of their software systems.
Her deteriorating mental condition - I later discovered she was diagnosed as being a paranoid schizophrenic and detained for some time in a Johannesburg mental hospital - caused the collapse of our relationship. I was in Gabon with one of the CL44s when she finally went over the edge - demanding that I bail her out of her suit with the retail group; harassing the wife of one of my partners and deluging me with abusive faxes and emails. When I told her that our relationship was now over, she said that she "would destroy me"unless I changed my mind or "I would regret it for the rest of my life".
Around two months later, I was contacted by the SA Police who said that she had reported finding some pornographic drawings on a desktop computer she claimed that I used. I was able to satisfy them that the computer was hers, not mine - as my computer had multiple security systems which prevented her from gaining access - and that on the date the drawings were saved onto the computer I was in Uganda with my partner and an associate. I was told later that the police wanted to charge her with perjury, but the State Prosecutor's Office decided that they would be unlikely to get a conviction based on her mental state and that the file should remain dormant.
Her deteriorating mental condition - I later discovered she was diagnosed as being a paranoid schizophrenic and detained for some time in a Johannesburg mental hospital - caused the collapse of our relationship. I was in Gabon with one of the CL44s when she finally went over the edge - demanding that I bail her out of her suit with the retail group; harassing the wife of one of my partners and deluging me with abusive faxes and emails. When I told her that our relationship was now over, she said that she "would destroy me"unless I changed my mind or "I would regret it for the rest of my life".
Around two months later, I was contacted by the SA Police who said that she had reported finding some pornographic drawings on a desktop computer she claimed that I used. I was able to satisfy them that the computer was hers, not mine - as my computer had multiple security systems which prevented her from gaining access - and that on the date the drawings were saved onto the computer I was in Uganda with my partner and an associate. I was told later that the police wanted to charge her with perjury, but the State Prosecutor's Office decided that they would be unlikely to get a conviction based on her mental state and that the file should remain dormant.
You can read the whole thread at http://www.airliners.net/discussions...d.main/337981/ but please be patient as it takes a while to load. In that post you will realise that Neil D Robertson has a penchant for lying and pretending to be something he isn't. He posts as Ceilidh which he has never denied and we all know that he posts as SAS23 but pay a lot of attention to the posts by Lawyergal. It is a very interesting read if you can wind your way past all the spotter type posts in it.So, decide if Neil D Robertson aka The Guvnor and countless other identities did ever attend Cranfield.
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Perhaps Lawyergal can dig you out of this one Neil otherwise it's time to flee the little old Marwell House flat maybe?
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SAS23, please stop posting. You are clouding the issue. The address in Margate is where Robertson was staying for nearly a year. He fled from there. He also registered his companies there, without the knowledge of person who was putting him up. He also registered for the voters register at that address, twice. Once with his current name and once with his pre-adoptive name. There was intent to deceive as he registered both names as directors of one of his fraudulent companies.
To also prove fraud, here is a link to a page from an archived website from Africargo days. http://web.archive.org/web/199902100...et/lvl223.html and if you scroll down you will see Robertson claiming: "Neil D Robertson - Group Chief Executive
PO Box 22860
Helderkruin
1733
Started in the airline industry with Laker Airways before buying into a cargo airline. Operated intercontinental services with two Boeing 707s and a DC8. He holds an ATPL and has in excess of 4,000 flying hours."
A total lie. Have a look at the website, some of the pictures no longer load but you will get the gist of it when comparing it to all his other previous and current websites. They all involve 'raising substantial sums of money'. Considering Robertson has lied so much about his background, qualifications and experience you must question his honesty when advertising on the web.
You can see some of the archived websites at http://web.archive.org/web/199812021...net/index.html and at http://web.archive.org/web/199910040...africargo.com/ where you will see Robertsons usual style and technique in website development. Also, his last post before fleeing Africa: http://web.archive.org/web/200001230...com/page4.html
Just do a bit of research and find out how much Robertson was actually involved. How much money he dealt with and where is it all now? It still amazes me that there are seemingly intelligent people who believe that Robertson is some kind of aviation guru and is able to set up airlines and has the capacity to raise money!
To also prove fraud, here is a link to a page from an archived website from Africargo days. http://web.archive.org/web/199902100...et/lvl223.html and if you scroll down you will see Robertson claiming: "Neil D Robertson - Group Chief Executive
PO Box 22860
Helderkruin
1733
Started in the airline industry with Laker Airways before buying into a cargo airline. Operated intercontinental services with two Boeing 707s and a DC8. He holds an ATPL and has in excess of 4,000 flying hours."
A total lie. Have a look at the website, some of the pictures no longer load but you will get the gist of it when comparing it to all his other previous and current websites. They all involve 'raising substantial sums of money'. Considering Robertson has lied so much about his background, qualifications and experience you must question his honesty when advertising on the web.
You can see some of the archived websites at http://web.archive.org/web/199812021...net/index.html and at http://web.archive.org/web/199910040...africargo.com/ where you will see Robertsons usual style and technique in website development. Also, his last post before fleeing Africa: http://web.archive.org/web/200001230...com/page4.html
Just do a bit of research and find out how much Robertson was actually involved. How much money he dealt with and where is it all now? It still amazes me that there are seemingly intelligent people who believe that Robertson is some kind of aviation guru and is able to set up airlines and has the capacity to raise money!
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Whilst NDR, aka The Guvnor, irrevocably shows himself to be a consummate mountebank (OED. n. itinerant quack appealing to audience from platform) and charlatan (OED. n. false pretender to knowledge or skill, esp. in medicine), the link to Cranfield provided by KoolKat on 6 November is intriguing in that it appears to show a genuine Cranfield Air Transport Management course member list with associated thesis topics, for the academic year 1996/97.
Is the Neil Robertson listed on the site, The Guvnor or is it someone else? If it is him, then is his apparent participation in the course a further smoke and mirrors illusion, or is he genuinely a mountebank and charlatan with an MSc in Air Transport Management?
PS I understand the course to be post graduate. What was his undergraduate degree?
Whilst NDR, aka The Guvnor, irrevocably shows himself to be a consummate mountebank (OED. n. itinerant quack appealing to audience from platform) and charlatan (OED. n. false pretender to knowledge or skill, esp. in medicine), the link to Cranfield provided by KoolKat on 6 November is intriguing in that it appears to show a genuine Cranfield Air Transport Management course member list with associated thesis topics, for the academic year 1996/97.
Is the Neil Robertson listed on the site, The Guvnor or is it someone else? If it is him, then is his apparent participation in the course a further smoke and mirrors illusion, or is he genuinely a mountebank and charlatan with an MSc in Air Transport Management?
PS I understand the course to be post graduate. What was his undergraduate degree?
When I told her that our relationship was now over, she said that she "would destroy me"unless I changed my mind or "I would regret it for the rest of my life".
Anyone thinking what I'm thinking?? Maybe his ex partner is posting both here and at airliners.net claiming to be the Guv in an attempt to both destroy and discredit him. Now that would really be a woman scorned, what fantastic revenge!!
Anyone thinking what I'm thinking?? Maybe his ex partner is posting both here and at airliners.net claiming to be the Guv in an attempt to both destroy and discredit him. Now that would really be a woman scorned, what fantastic revenge!!
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inetnum: 194.78.100.0 - 194.78.100.255
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Sick and Tired
Am I the only one to be totally sick and tired of The Guvnor, aka Neil Robertson, aka a couple of handfuls of other aliases, together with all those who are so exercised by the man and his deeds or misdeeds?
There can be nobody unaware of Robertson's business background by now. Anybody who wants to do business with him does so at their own risk. Any other allegations about him, if they involve lawbreaking, should be reported to the police. Wild accusations are all over my favourite website, and I am fed up with what could be seen as a witch hunt.
Let's get back to aviation, and topics related to it (except JetBlast of course!)
Please - everyone - let the whole business wither on the vine.
The Guvnor is an ex-parrot - he is no more.
There can be nobody unaware of Robertson's business background by now. Anybody who wants to do business with him does so at their own risk. Any other allegations about him, if they involve lawbreaking, should be reported to the police. Wild accusations are all over my favourite website, and I am fed up with what could be seen as a witch hunt.
Let's get back to aviation, and topics related to it (except JetBlast of course!)
Please - everyone - let the whole business wither on the vine.
The Guvnor is an ex-parrot - he is no more.
Moderate, Modest & Mild.
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That would HAVE to be a record, wouldn't it?
Incidentally, I thought that the sort of stuff going on here was the reserved for the convicts in the Dunnunda forum (and usually wrt the "Dispute").
Must be in the blood!
BTW poodleair (Neil, I assume), you really descended to the depths of depravity with your (now erased) post. Pretty stupid, really, and did a lot more to DISCREDIT YOU than anything else posted here.
That would HAVE to be a record, wouldn't it?Incidentally, I thought that the sort of stuff going on here was the reserved for the convicts in the Dunnunda forum (and usually wrt the "Dispute").
Must be in the blood!
BTW poodleair (Neil, I assume), you really descended to the depths of depravity with your (now erased) post. Pretty stupid, really, and did a lot more to DISCREDIT YOU than anything else posted here.
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tired of this subject
yYs, I also have seen, heard, written, read enough of this.
let's get back to aviation subjects.
The man obviously wants this attention.
AND WE ARE GIVING IT TO HIM!!!
Pretty stupid of ALL of us.
Final word on it:
let's get back to aviation subjects.
The man obviously wants this attention.
AND WE ARE GIVING IT TO HIM!!!
Pretty stupid of ALL of us.
Final word on it:
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The threads regarding NDR are clearing marked as such. It is entirely your right to ignore them or criticize them.
While aviation has always been an unwilling home to more than its fair share of scam artists and ne'erdowells this is a case of one using modern communications to both to defraud and feed a seething, sick ego.
Therefore we reserve the right to use the same medium to expose his activities and, make no mistake, we will see him in court.
While aviation has always been an unwilling home to more than its fair share of scam artists and ne'erdowells this is a case of one using modern communications to both to defraud and feed a seething, sick ego.
Therefore we reserve the right to use the same medium to expose his activities and, make no mistake, we will see him in court.
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It's your trainset, Rob. I'm just unhappy that this oaf has managed to get so far under the skin of Their Pruneships that it is adding a sour note to the world's best aviation (remember aviation?) website.
I shall never mention any of this again, I promise.
I shall never mention any of this again, I promise.
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Tosh26, the Neil Robertson who attended Cranfield is NOT the Neil Duncan Robertson aka Giles Cecil Michie, born 5th October 1965, Kirkcaldy, Scotland.
The Guvnor found the name and decided to pretend it was him. From the posts I made earlier, with all the links that show Robertson was in Africa at the time of the innocent Robertson was taking his course in Cranfield. The Guvnor has never attended any university although he claims degrees from St Andrews, The university of South Africa and Cranfield.
How much more information do you need to realise that The Guvnor is a crook and a pervert? He has no problem lying about degrees he never received, his forged pilot licences, his business failures, his perverted pretence to be a child psychologist specialising in sex abuse and his neo-nazi sympathies. Do you not get it? Do you think I like having a predatory pervert post my home address and phone number on the internet because I am having fun doing this? He is right now posting my details on other websites, especially ones where he has a following of ultra-right wing thugs and paedophiles who are desperate to protect their activities.
Robertson is in a corner because of all the information that is becoming available about his secret activities and he is desperately hitting back. I don't mind taking the brunt of it as long as people are aware of what he is doing. I would not bother taking that sort of risk if I didn't have the evidence. I have passed what I have to the appropraite authorities and no doubt Robertson will be dealt with by the courts in due course. In the meantime he will try and smokescreen to deflect attention from his own exposure.
The Guvnor found the name and decided to pretend it was him. From the posts I made earlier, with all the links that show Robertson was in Africa at the time of the innocent Robertson was taking his course in Cranfield. The Guvnor has never attended any university although he claims degrees from St Andrews, The university of South Africa and Cranfield.
How much more information do you need to realise that The Guvnor is a crook and a pervert? He has no problem lying about degrees he never received, his forged pilot licences, his business failures, his perverted pretence to be a child psychologist specialising in sex abuse and his neo-nazi sympathies. Do you not get it? Do you think I like having a predatory pervert post my home address and phone number on the internet because I am having fun doing this? He is right now posting my details on other websites, especially ones where he has a following of ultra-right wing thugs and paedophiles who are desperate to protect their activities.
Robertson is in a corner because of all the information that is becoming available about his secret activities and he is desperately hitting back. I don't mind taking the brunt of it as long as people are aware of what he is doing. I would not bother taking that sort of risk if I didn't have the evidence. I have passed what I have to the appropraite authorities and no doubt Robertson will be dealt with by the courts in due course. In the meantime he will try and smokescreen to deflect attention from his own exposure.
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Private e-mail me at any time.
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Anyone notice that on the "pilot recruitment" section of his website that he had ripped off everything from EasyJet? The factoered hours thing, the lot. Just Sub L-1011 for 737 and its all there. What a tosser.