Russians playing games with their jammers (believed)

[remi]

Astro (Star tracking) + INS would take care of navigation as a backup for most flights. I don't think astro would be much of an expense although approval might be a chore.

[Lascaille]

Originally Posted by Teddy Robinson

We both have our route preplanned into our Ipads, and these are STILL displaying an accurate visually checked position, speed and GPS Altitude with a stated accuracy of 6 meters.

All I can say is that it is phonemically accurate, and gives real time downgrades to position accuracy if that occurs.

You're saying that the ipads maintain navigation while the aircraft doesn't?

Do you think the ipads are using their galileo/russian-gps receivers and the onboard system is GPS only?

That would be my first guess.

[ATC Watcher]

Originally Posted by Lascaille

You're saying that the ipads maintain navigation while the aircraft doesn't?

Do you think the ipads are using their galileo/russian-gps receivers and the onboard system is GPS only?

That would be my first guess.

And your guess is correct . this is the case.

[Nil by mouth]

Flying/navigating using a mobile phone is the norm for Russian fighter pilots because their GPS systems are so bad and outdated.

[Deaf]

Phone stuff is set up for ground not air eg east to west over Termerloh in Malaysia at 4,000 AGL
a/c Garmin spot on
handheld Garmin 72 spot on
Samsung Tablet actual 300m south of track
Motorola ph actual 300m south of track

This was in 2017, all gps was set to lat/long not Malaysian grids (major problem there)

Unable to comment on Ipad

[jez d]

Originally Posted by 639

Could be helpfull in Future....https://www.advancednavigation.com/t...-sensor-fusion

Airbus has a project running at the moment looking at the use of quantum sensing: New pilot assistance technologies take to the road with Airbus' Optimate demonstrator | Airbus

[Fitter2]

'Quantum sensing' without any explanation sounds good marketing geekspeak. The current largest quantum computer has 1000 qubits. A worm brain has 302 neurons, so IBMs best effort is more capacity than 3 worms. Capable of replacing a manager, but not a pilot .

[EEngr]

Originally Posted by Nil by mouth

Flying/navigating using a mobile phone is the norm for Russian fighter pilots because their GPS systems are so bad and outdated.

A number of stories about Russians duct-taping consumer GPS units in their military aircraft.

We need to stop them from obtaining advanced Western technology. How did they ever get hold of duct-tape?

[steamchicken]

Originally Posted by Fitter2

'Quantum sensing' without any explanation sounds good marketing geekspeak. The current largest quantum computer has 1000 qubits. A worm brain has 302 neurons, so IBMs best effort is more capacity than 3 worms. Capable of replacing a manager, but not a pilot .

It's not quantum computing - it's something else: https://www.gov.uk/government/news/u...hostile-actors

[Mr Good Cat]

Originally Posted by steamchicken

It's not quantum computing - it's something else: https://www.gov.uk/government/news/u...hostile-actors

Quantum Sensing 80s TV Style

[Lascaille]

If we're doing Donald P. Bellisario, Airwolf probably had quantum sensors...

[Bandures]

Originally Posted by EEngr

A number of stories about Russians duct-taping consumer GPS units in their military aircraft.

We need to stop them from obtaining advanced Western technology. How did they ever get hold of duct-tape?

This is most likely a dashcam, based on the form of the unit and placement.

[Out Of Trim]

Originally Posted by Bandures

This is most likely a dashcam, based on the form of the unit and placement.

Nope, that is a Garmin Etrex GPS. I have one very similar!

[Typhoon Tripacer]

Originally Posted by EEngr

A number of stories about Russians duct-taping consumer GPS units in their military aircraft.

We need to stop them from obtaining advanced Western technology. How did they ever get hold of duct-tape?

Not much NATO equipment has performed particularly well. Relying on a single photo that I can source back to at least Dec 2021 with a GPS that has been many years in production is not a convincing argument of poor Russian technology.