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Old 29th Apr 2024, 01:53
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Moved myself from other thread:

The " Aircraft Certification, Safety, and Accountability Act" falls into the weird zone. It doesn't prevent errors, it simply adds another stick to beat people with. Mostly, if an unexpected thing happens, then it can be claimed it happened because the organization failed to follow the generalized, non-specific, requirements. And then there are requirements that likely won't help.

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(d) Safety Reporting Program.—The regulations issued under subsection (a) shall require a safety management system to include a confidential employee reporting system through which employees can report hazards, issues, concerns, occurrences, and incidents. A reporting system under this subsection shall include provisions for non-punitive reporting of such items by employees in a manner consistent with other confidential employee reporting systems administered by the Administrator. Such regulations shall also require a certificate holder described in subsection (a) to submit a summary of reports received under this subsection to the Administrator at least twice per year.
The complaint at hand was that the "hazards, issues, concerns, occurrences, and incidents" and the claim is the reporting was ignored. The anonymity would not make the reporting more effective - whatever defects are being reported would remain if anonymously reported - and the reporter would then still have the dilemma of whether or not to stay in a position they are unable to affect vs. being moved to some other position where they can also not affect the outcome, just as when they are identified.

Make the system: A system of anonymous reporting to the FAA for which the FAA has to extract answers and report to Congress within 30 days of receipt.

Why not? Because Congress doesn't want the burden of reviewing the FAA work and certainly won't allocate funds to create, manage, or man this effort. On top of that, it would put Congress in the chain of accountability. Being anonymous, one could set up a campaign of hundreds of false complaints every month, week, or day in order to bring the company, the FAA, and Congressional oversight to their knees. If such harassment reporting can be traced, then it's not truly anonymous.

Moved from the other thread:

(e) Code Of Ethics.—The regulations issued under subsection (a) shall require a safety management system to include establishment of a code of ethics applicable to all employees of a certificate holder, including officers, which clarifies that safety is the organization’s highest priority.
A longtime favorite. If a person is unethical then a Code of Ethics won't change that. Pressed too hard as a priority and it moves to being background noise that even ethical people won't pay any attention to. They can remain ethical, but the campaign is an irritation, as if they cannot be trusted.
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For a law firm representing a whistle blower the main weapon I would expect them to use is the offer to sign an NDA in exchange for a large settlement. Unless the client wants otherwise, I would expect that of any damages litigation. The lack of publication isn't surprising.

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If the plaintiff wants to release the information, Wikileaks is available as are Google Docs.

In response to "strawman" then what happens to an item on a plane that is near delivery and they wait 6 months to deal with the complaint? How long was the door unsecured from the factory?
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Old 29th Apr 2024, 21:30
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https://www.reuters.com/business/aer...es-2024-04-29/

Boeing taps debt market to raise $10 billion, sources say

April 29 (Reuters) - Boeing (BA.N), opens new tab on Monday tapped debt markets to raise $10 billion, after the U.S. planemaker burned $3.93 billion in free cash during the first quarter as production of its best-selling jet declined, sources familiar with the matter said.
Boeing shares rose 3.4% after the successful sale. Ratings agencies last week slashed the outlook on Boeing's credit to just above "junk" status. On Monday, both assigned ratings nearing junk to Boeing's new senior unsecured notes, with S&P assigning a BBB- rating and Moody's a Baa3 rating.
​​​​​​​Maybe all that burned buyback cash would come in handy now?

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Boeing has finalised an agreement with GKN Aerospace to integrate its St. Louis site under Boeing's wing. The agreement helps secure the future of key aircraft programmes and ensures workforce job continuity. The deal, completed in partnership with GKN Aerospace and its parent company, Melrose Industries, guarantees the continuation of essential parts manufacturing for the F/A-18 and F-15 programmes.
Boeing immediately assumes control of GKN's St. Louis site, integrating its operations into its own. Moreover, the transition ensures job security for approximately 550 employees previously employed by GKN, who will now become part of Boeing's workforce. The US, which is still in the process of acquiring the F-35 Lightning II multirole fighter aircraft, has also considered procuring the F-15X multirole fighter aircraft in small volumes to supplement its fleet of F-35 aircraft and maintain fleet diversity, according to GlobalData's "The Global Military Fixed Wing Aircraft Market 2023-2033" report.

Steve Parker, senior vice president and chief operating officer of Boeing Defense, Space & Security, emphasised the broader impact of the agreement, stating, "This agreement allows us to not only deliver for our customers but also gives the highly skilled GKN workforce the opportunity to bring their immense talents to bear in support of the warfighter and the St. Louis defence and aerospace industry. This is a win-win-win for those employees, Boeing, and the broader Saint Louis community."
For what it's worth. I'd need to look but I suspect a bit of MD connection in there somewhere.
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GKN had bought the site from Boeing in 2001, so this is just a return to the previous ownership status.
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Old 2nd May 2024, 00:01
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Second Boeing whistleblower dies in less than two months (msn.com)
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MRSA was the initiator for causing his death.

Methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus Bacteria. See https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-...s/syc-20375336 for details.

Not a doctor but it looks to me like it's one of those infections where the early symptoms can be taken as a "no big deal," like many other infections can be, and progress to "near to death" far more quickly than the infected person expects.

For transmission they list, among others, skin to skin contact as happens for wrestlers, so it's not a disease limited to the already unhealthy, but it can certainly take advantage.
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The various press accounts seem ambiguous about when/where Dean acquired MRSA. One account says after he entered the hospital and another says he tested positive for Flu B and MRSA upon being admitted. Any of the 3 maladies noted (Flu B, pneumonia, MRSA) can cause death, even in a “healthy” 45-year-old. A likely scenario is that he became infected with Flu B, which developed into pneumonia and he then acquired MRSA in the hospital after being intubated.

The news reports of this death as “sudden” (he was in ICU for 2 weeks) along with bookending it with the Barnett death certainly adds fuel to the conspiracy theories. Then there’s Dean’s attorney stating that he doesn’t want to speculate about the circumstances of Dean’s death. I’ve not seen any reports of additional investigation of Dean’s death beyond the obvious and well-documented medical circumstances. I don’t know what else there would be to investigate.
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Saw this one. Not sure if the comment is from NTSB as well (likely not) and fair.




I had digged out FAA and EASA for EAD's of 737/32x as a sign of safety level. There was no such difference between both Families.

HOW can I shrink the image sizes? Wasn't there a forum functions to choose the sizing?? 😠
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waito, what is the source for the (really quite awkward) graphic you posted? I can read what the graphic says the source took information from - but who is the source of the graphic? Who published it, s.v.p.?
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The scale looks wrong. In fact the red curve is likely plotted as the sum of B+A, not B only, which makes this graph misleading.
And it has already been said that the B fleet is more ancient and about the same size than the A fleet, so more incidents expected, the market share of the year is irrelevant.
(No sympathy for B here, as I feel more for Bombardier)
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Old 3rd May 2024, 00:17
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Originally Posted by Petit-Lion
The scale looks wrong. In fact the red curve is likely plotted as the sum of B+A, not B only, which makes this graph misleading.
Well spotted!
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More important than number and age is operators and cause, into which age may matter or not. Will a newly off the line plane have the same problems from maintainers that one that is a few years over the expected lifespan? The above chart is nothing more than useless to make any comparison that is important.

One bit that is noticeable is that there was a sharp increase in incidents for Boeing when Airbus incidents increased. I'd look to see if that latter part was due to a ramp up in Airbus sales, causing some Boeing planes to be transferred to secondary operators with less capable maintainers or more short-haul flights that ramp up minor damages or simply getting to the part of their life where problems accumulate and the best maintainers were put to concentrate on the new Airbus purchases.

Let me look at the chart to see if that conjecture is true - and there it is - nothing.
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Lies, blasted lies, statistics - and publishing junk - garbage - nonsense.... but ah! calling it "data" or better yet, "evidence", well now, that's metaphysical truth. Even more so when it shows up in graphical form.

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Old 3rd May 2024, 07:07
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Well, we do not know who has authored this chart and if the data is really coming from the NTSB.
I have downloaded the "AviationAccidentStatistics_2003-2022_20231228.xlsx" file available on the NTSB statistical reviews page.
A very simple query on the Flight regulation column relating to "Part 121: Air carrier" operations shows that during this period incidents/accidents for A and B were:
- 88 for A
- 296 for B
Of course, these raw numbers do not tell us anything as they should be crossed with the number of A and B A/C flying under Part 121 operations in each year from 2003 to 2022.
I don't know where to find such data but I am pretty sure that some of you will be able to do so
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I did the new Samsung/Google reverse picture search.
The list of appearances doesn't look too trustworthy.

At the end tons of Russian and Iranian sites. Is the source somewhere from them kingdoms of honesty?


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I think EADs relate more with design/fabrication issues than with operations/maintenance issues, hence the intent of this "chart"...
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This analysis of the above chart will prove helpful to many.

https://visualapproach.io/does-data-...ing-is-unsafe/


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Very nice explanation and demonstration as to why we should not always trust data that is difficult to verify , and sometime sit is not easy to do.
the last sentence of the demonstration is essential in understanding incidents data , we knew it but worth repeating over and over.
This highlights another danger of simply using the number of reports filed as an indication of aircraft safety: not all incidents are the same........... the elevated number of incident reports stems from a very strong safety culture, not one of reduced safety. In this case, more incident reports are an indication of increased safety.
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And ANOTHER fiickup by Boeing….

Since a few weeks, several crews report issues with the Boeing performance calculation suite -OPT- for the B777 family. Random crashes, erroneous data calculations….A serious issue, one would think…
However, according to sources in close contact with Seattle, Mr Boeing is still in ‘relax’ mode and will implement a fix for this serious issue in about…… 2 months….
2 MONTHS….really? What a sh1tshow this company has become!

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The performance of the computer that did the OPT on the 787 family deteriorated so fast, that my company had us stop using it on aircraft that were literally 3 months old. The hardware was never capable in the first place. But then, what do you expect from a company that couldn't even design a toilet seat that would stay up mid-way through pissing.
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